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GOLD Member1: The best solution, by far IMO.
2: Good solution, but you are limited to Bluetooth for streaming and your mobile device/phone will always be engaged.
3: I have set up quite a few of these earlier.
If you are just after DAB+ they may be right for you. The BT version however is old and – just as with the 2: – you will rely on having your phone nearby and active.
The version with Spotify Connect is better (if you are a heavy Spotify user).
They are modified stock devices for being controlled with an IR B&O remote in the sense that the commands go partly to the device and partly to the – in your case – BC.Generally you use the A.Aux (or the A.Tape 2) command and 1-10 on the remote for direct access to radio stations.
Changing to the BT part can be tricky. Most people (in Denmark) do not use that.In my opinion it is an outdated product!
But it can be the right one for people, who do not want to involve their phone just for listening to a radio program.4: Which brings me to yet another solution , that might be interesting to you.
MM
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Not in my case. MM
I assume yours is an Essence Mk 2?
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Sure, that is what I have written several times!
Forget the Essence MK1 – that is not worth it’s money…..unless you’d get it with the remote very cheap.
MM
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The essence mk2 lacks chrome cast support in comparison to the Core if I’m not mistaken, is that right?
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Not in my case.
MM
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As for a passive treatment of your room, you ought to let a skilled person do the job – he will need to see the room and do some measurement.
A room like what you describe, is basically bad for sound, for listening…especially if you want to have a specific listening position (“narrow beam speakers“).
Also you should consider that these treatment – done 100% – will have a heavy effect on the looks of the room.
When B&O developed the BL90’s (and later on the BL50’s), they took into account that a lot of their costumer have acoustically bad rooms! These 2 speakers have a built-in room compensation, that lets them adapt to the room, when set up – and both can be costumized for specific listening positions (in fact several positions).
You will not have to worry that the 90’er or the 50’s can fill your room with sound….in fact more than that.
For insight in how the BL90 works please have a look here
As for your other suggestions (“BL17s, BL3s, or BL18s strategically distributed across the room, combined with one or two BL19s“), you will need many to compete with the 90’s/50’s….and you will run into trouble finding the right placement of the BL19’s. Apart from that you will never be able to have a specific/optimized listening position. You will never have this “listening corner (5 x5 m) where I can listen to music while sitting” – it will (at best) be an even sound from all of the room.
Apart from this you should think of the need for connecting these many speakers – they will each need power cables and the powerlink cables. Not that this could not work – it will be a different experience and taste can not be discussed.
By the Way, which source/s do you intend to use?
I’d say a set of the 50’s or even the 90’s is the right choice for such a room – I am sure you can arrange a demo at home – at least for the 50’s – from a good B&O dealer.
Hope this helps a bit.
P.S.
This said – there would be another solution….the BS Theatre has similar capacities for Room Compensation and for creating different Listening Positions.
This soundbar from B&O can without any problems be used as a stereo/2 channel setup. You can connect multiple (Beolab) speakers here and have these play unified for 2 channel listening. You can connect some of the speakers, that you have mentioned, wirelessly….which makes it easier to place these and rearrange if needed (they still need a power cord, though).
The soundbar itself could be hidden away – if preferred. This would also provide several sources and a control with a B&O remote respectively with the Bang & Olufsen app.
Edit!
Seeing the post that came just before mine was finished . the BS Shape could be an excellent option too – however it will not give you the specific, optimal listening position, you have written about. The Shape is a terrific speaker setup to fill a room with sound.
MM
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Yes, the cable from Steve is the right one – just ask him directly, if you are in doubt.
For the things you want to achieve, you can use the BS Core as well as the Essence MK2. They both support B&O Radio and Spotify Connect. As for the built-in DLNA player (“potentially play from a music server” ), it is rather basic, but can be used. Most people, who rely heavily on playing local stored files, tend to use another app for that – these apps will see the Core/Essence MK2 as the taget device.
Since you are connecting the device to the Aux of the BC 8500, this will do the volume regulation with the Beo4. You won’t need – or benefit from – the Essence Remote (which was an add-on anyway). The Core/theEssence MK2 has an option for setting the output to a fixed line-level. You do not have to worry about volume control there…..all is done with the Beo4 like with the other sources of the 8500.
It is pretty simple! I have done that earlier on for many years.
MM
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On Theatre connected to a LG TV, the 2 tabs are logical (unfortunately, “Music” sources are limited to USB and Line-in, all sources available on NL/ML are missing).
Yann.———
I guess there is not much hope that we will ever get these (NL/ML) connected sources back again on the Theatre (as well as on the other Mozart products)…….but I do miss them too!
The workaround with ‘joining’ is not very intuitive – not what I would expect from B&O.
MM
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These 4 screws are not ‘holding’ the tv. They are there to secure the tv, when it hangs in the right place/position on the floor stand.
Unscrew and lift the tv upwards with the bottom slightly tilted to the front.
You should never do this alone – it is a 2 person job…..unless you are experienced and/or a very strong person.
My advice would be to have a couple of boxes or alike to place the tv on after lifting it off….let it lean against a wall. This way it will be easier to grab it afterwards, when you want to carry it to the new place. Alternatively put it on a bed, a big sofa or alike…..the screen up!
The tv is heavy!
The stand can be carried by one person – take care when you pick it up.
MM
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Definitely unmount the tv from the stand, when you move it.
I would also do that, even if I just had to move it around inside the house.
The easel stand is very heavy – you can not move it much when mounted.
It is not foldable.
MM
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Beoworlders were the first to know about this fascinating device development.
Philip seems to be a very clever and skilled guy with great love for B&O products.
As an example.Actually Ulrik from Hall Audio has chimed in just 3 weeks ago.
Apart from contributing with some ideas, Hall Audio will be the company to bring the (finished) product family to the market.
So watch out for news on their website.For those interested in keeping legacy B&O product alive and bringing new features to them, the products from Neomesteren should be interesting too.
Also a danish company with former employers of B&O working for keeping older B&O gear usefull for the future.MM
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For what you do in your setup, you clearly do not need the Bang & Olufsen app (apart from maybe changing settings).
However, the B&O app is supposed to secure a smooth Beolink experience for those of us, who have a bigger network link based setup.
For that we need a wellworking app…..which we obviously do not have at the moment.MM
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Since I am using an external app (Spotify Premium/Connect) for music, I am used to not rely on the app.
(I do use Apple Music, too – however, that is mostly for Atmos versions on the ATV/BST).The BeoRemote One can do the basic commands (for play, pause etc).
I can choose the radio station I want from the remote.
I can change Listening Positions (and Sound Modes for the BST), and it has the 4 MyButtons.The app (on a dedicated spare iPad) has become a display for what is currently playing……..and occasionally for settings.
I rarely ‘Expand’ from within the app – I ‘Join in’ on the other device/s, if I need to listen to the same in more rooms.
So no big deal – I was just wondering, what has changed, when they release Beta versions that often.
For my use case I see nothing, that may have changed……nothing that I can test 🤔MM
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I see no changes either for my use.
Can any one tell us, what it is that has changed?
Would be nice to know what to test 🤔MM
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I am wondering why there is a difference in the UI, whether you are on a beta on the iPad or on an Android phone.
On the Android thingy the buttons (in the second/third row) are sized correct and and are all labelled, not on the iPad…..how am I to know that the round icon means Sound Modes 🤔
Also they still not explain that there is a difference between short and long press there….do we have to guess to know that?
Am I the only one using an iPad – how does it/the beta look on an iPhone?
MM
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By the way – if this can be of any comfort – the troubles we have with the app changes, is nothing compared to the trouble, that Sonos users apparently have with their new regular app after the update.
MM
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On Theatre there is a difference between short press and long press by the Listening Positions and the Sound icons….
…in case you haven’t noticed.However, there was no explanation that this is so.
MM
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Pretty annoying – especially, when you know that the Source List previously was pretty crippled.
This in one step backwards, again.
I did report that…..every beta tester should!I know that this is beta!
However, that should not have happened 😠
Hopefully they will get it sorted soon, otherweise you can roll back to the previous version…..or use the regular version.
Alternatively you can – as I prefer – use the BROne (at least for the BS Theatre)MM
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What is this thread – B&O finance – about?
Klicking it does nothing?
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I have also seen that a couple of times.
MM
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Pressing BB on the top bar will give acces to different viewsvincluding newest topics. Gues we just have to get used to new ways of doing things ?
Oh well, that is somewhat hidden there.
Does deserve a more obvious place imo.MM
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There was some talk/links over on Discord/BeoTalk of someone in Germany who had developed a Masterlink/RJ45 “device” than could integrate older Masterlink Products via the current NL protocols for 100Euro or so.
I imagine the encore is not as well-developed as this little “professional but amateur” (or Amateur but professional) device this individual made and is now selling. As I own no ML products I was not really paying attention.but its out there for those that do.
There was a thread here end of 2023 – This one
MM
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