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Point 5 – answer is ‘yes*’ and I will add a note to the doc.
Point 5: Beoport + 3500: do the 3500 receive the IR commands and pass them to the computer?
Ok, so here is my question that maybe worth a thread on its own:
Iv’ got a spare 3500, I’ve got a spare old Mac mini and I can find a not so expensive Beolink PC2.
Would it be possible to have something like MAC (VNC but no screen) > Beoport or PC2 > 3500, be an standalone whole unit where Mac would be music server through iTunes, the sound would go out of the 3500, and the whole thing would just need a Beo4 to start, play and skip?Ok as I was writing I got that you would not be able to select a specific album. But then there is the iTunes remote app for iThing that could be use as remote for browsing and playing.
Then bonus question: if yes. would BM-link be enough or Link player (deprecated) be better?
*The Mac mini is an old one with whatever system that show some sort of cat on it.
You have 2 hours…
Location: Paris FranceI have also found a Beolink Video 1615 (Test 16). However, having read the Service Manual I am not sure that it is worth even testing anything. The manual states: All ML output components have been removed … the audio path is one-way from ML to AAL.
At first I thought the same “no Masterlink out” (so in my case and the goal I’m after, 1615 is useless). But reading better your schedule you wrote “use dual input BL1611 connected with ML to BL1615 connected to MX TV (which I don’t have!) to allow activation of two extra‘audio’ sources on TV.” Meaning ML OUT from 1611 to ML IN from 1615 And A.AUX or whatever the socket out from 1615 to the MX TV, so… (Sorry Mrs Guy).
You need to find an MX! 😀
Location: Paris FranceSame here with BC2300, BC6 and 1611.It made nothing appart the long press shutdown.
Location: Paris FranceIt could be connected to both video and audio AAL at the same time, hence this diagram in the ML handbook.
Of course idiot me. I forget it even if it was this diagram that started the dual input trick.
Location: Paris Francethe PL trigger voltage seems to force BL1611 into audio mode.
Seems logical since this is why a powerlink was fitted to the converter, to “tell” the masterlink source, audio was started localy from the AAL side.
which is only then cleared with a power cycle.
This is less logical. Or maybe not: the converter was meant to be connected to a Video AAL or Audio AAL, but not both at the same time. Then without Y splitting adapter or similar in which scenario would the converter need to revert to video mode after have been triggered by Powerlink?
Location: Paris FranceWhilst a lot of people talk about the 8 pin din being a PowerLink socket we all know that is not really true. It just used the old MCL din socket so that a new module would not need to be designed.
I don’t understand.
Apparently, MCL Beolabs can be started with a 5V trigger voltage. MK2 (or beyond a certain SW can’t). But it is often mentioned that the DIN socket was changed from MCL to Powerlink to comply with Beolink Wireless 1, even if the BLW1 guide say it must be connected through ML and not PL.
So the question is what is this socket, what was it along the evolution of the speaker and what is it for?
Please note that this is just out of curiosity since I now know that the 3500 will never be as better as with a 1611 to drive it!
Location: Paris FranceThere seems to exist a ‘converter’
Didn’t remember that one! Thanks Tignum.
Location: Paris FranceA Terminal 5000 can’t be used?
A far as I know Terminal is only for daily operation like source selection and volume control.
Location: Paris FranceNo. Only MCP5000.
Location: Paris FranceOK so Test 7 ongoing – I had to tidy my test setup!
So cute, you didnt vacuum today but you still protected the carpet under the converter and the 2000! 😀
Location: Paris FranceI have no intention of going anywhere near a Wireless 1
Unless SW 3.3 make the powerlink socket behave like we are used to…
Location: Paris FranceThat’s a great idea. Between Keith among us and your test report I feel compelled to wear a white blouse to do next tests (aren’t they brownish at B&O?).
Guy two things:
Point 3: maybe you should mention that with SW > 2.1, PC is normally displayed on the Beolab.
Point 5: Beoport + 3500: do the 3500 receive the IR commands and pass them to the computer?
Location: Paris FranceI am now trying the BL3500 with BL1611 and it seems to behave exactly as Matador’s.
Guy, do you have a Beolink Active 1636 (or 163x)?
I was told 163x converter replaced 1611 😉 and I would like to know if it can drive the 3500 as standalone the same way the 1611 does.
Location: Paris FranceI think yours may be SW2.1, whereas mine is 2.0.
One is labelled SW 3.1. The other (the one I use for tests) does not show SW version on the sticker, but I will check it next time I plug it
About the price of 60kWh of electricity.
God, with those price it almost worth moving to your region!
Location: Paris FranceHi Beitie,
Thank you for sharing your work. May I suggest that you add your pictures in the post by clicking in the little framed mountain, last button in the window where you type your message? Better than as attachement because they will show up in the thread bigger than the little preview of an attached picture.
Thank you.
Location: Paris FranceIs that the same on yours Matador?
I can’t say, you’ll have to wait I replug the whole thing (I disconnect everything after each experience and don’t use it daily). PC shows PC and open the audio/audio port of the 1611.
Just guessing but wasn’t the PC command added for the Beoport or when computers became an usual source of sound? Then it would make sense it shared the V.AUX entry like if it was the audio part of an AV source (sound plus picture i.e computer screen). Maybe related to the beomedia implementation? I don’t know.
It would be interesting maybe to have a little timeline with beosources names changes and equivalent over time?
I have an energy counter plug. I will check if power consumption change between on, muted and off. would be sad and surprinsing that there is no standby mode even if I dont hear any click when the speaker turns on.
Location: Paris FranceA.AUX doesn’t work (nor does PC)
I don’t understand: is it that the commande from remote does not call an audio source?
she doesn’t like the look, and thinks there’s something missing from the middle.
Honestly? she can’t be more right, I feel the same. Just put an iPod on dock or better a cactus in the middle!
Location: Paris FranceOne of my first tests will be the BL1611 ‘dual-input’ to the BL2000,
Selectable with the front key!
Congrats on your new toys, may we make the interest to this understated speaker rise, make it the poor man’s Beosound 35…
Location: Paris FranceBurned!
Yes stupid me about ML over PL… Anyway, falling is sometimes discovering.
SO, guys, THREE sources on a Beolab 3500, yes three!
Source 1 from audio input of the 1611 converter.
Source 2 from video input of the 1611 converter.
Source 3 from the PL path “Menu 0 4 GO”. But there is a little background hiss, hopefully from too quick wiring, Steve should tell us.The three sources are working altogether. Of course touching any control on the remote turn off the speaker when on PL mode.
I’ve tried wiring the Matserlink input along with the converter and guess what happened? A “mix” of the two sources of course (Master link from the hack and Masterlink from the converter)!
As for the 5v triggering, I’ve talk with the (sympathetic) guy and tried and it works for him (MK1, which has MCL engraved under the DIN socket), but not for me (MK2).
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