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I had the migration option on my Beosound 2 and dismissed it. I would like to go back and migrate to B&O Radio but I no longer see the option to migrate. Is there a way to migrate now?
What I did was I visited the web site of the internet radio stations that were not on B&O Radio, in my case j-popprojectradio.com. They had a tab “Listen” which had all the ways you could listen to their stations including streaming URLs. On the B&O website I used their Contact Us option in Support and told them my request to see if they could add a couple of stations. I provided the name of the stations, J-PopProjectRadio and J-IdolsProjectRadio, the streaming URLs from the website, the website URL, and location information where the channels originated them. I tried to provide as much information to B&O as I could that was available, so they could do whatever rights research they needed to do. I can’t say how long it took to have them added to B&O Radio because I didn’t have a system on the Mozart platform at the time, but I don’t think it took too long. I believe they also added a similar station for me as a bonus, Kawaii Music – laut.fm, as I don’t remember it being there before.
I hope this helps and good luck!November 17, 2022 at 7:42 pm in reply to: Adding BL19 to BeoSound Theatre worth it or needed? #11328
I have the Theatre with the 18’s up front and a 19.
My impressions between listening to just the Theatre and all 5 external speakers:
With the Theatre and treble and bass set to 0.
Theatre only: Bass was more apparent and the treble was slightly diminished when compared to the 18’s and 19. The sound for me was more pleasant with the 18’s and 19.
I then took Steve’s original suggestion and set the Theatre: Bass -1, Treble +1
On my system this removed pretty much all the difference between the Theatre and the Theatre with the 18’s and 19. Both options now have a similar sound and both pleasant. But I listen to more music than movies. The movie I did watch was Top Gun Maverick and switching between the 2 listening positions wasn’t very noticable.
I hope this helps!
Edit: I’m still glad I bought the BL 19 though!
- This reply was modified 2 weeks, 5 days ago by Mark.
Before my channels were on B&O Radio, I listened to them on TuneIn which was fine because all of my B&O at the time had TuneIn. There were a times when I would turn on the station and here a message that the radio station couldn’t be streamed to my area. It turns out there was a dispute between record labels and the station that had to be sorted out, which somehow included my country. Things were worked out and everything has been fine for a long time, but be mindful that B&O will have to consider rights issues that affect countries differently.
When I made the request to B&O I included the URL’s to the stations and other information I could get about location and web site information. I assume that B&O will have to contact them to find out if it is ok for them to include their channel in B&O radio.
Sounds like it could have been a shielding problem with the cable.
It is my understanding the only way to update the software of the Beolab 17 is with the wireless transmitter? It would be nice if you could do it through the Theatre.
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Do you know what setting that is? When I use the app to control my Beosound 2, go to Radio and select the B&O Radio tab, and then a B&O Radio station I get:
Action not supported by the selected product.
I did not adjust the bass and treble on the Theatre but I did turn loudness off. With this setting the addition of the 18’s and 19 in the front are much more noticable, and pleasing.
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My speakers are now all wired to the Theatre and I feel like I can now give it a serious listen.
I like it… a lot!
While I said before, the Theatre sounds fine on it’s own, the addition of the 18’s and 19 up front improves the bass and treble and gives it a more enveloping 3 dimensional feel to it. I watched the first hour of Top Gun Maverick from the 4K blu-ray and it sounds fantastic! While I did not notice the rear 17’s activity on their own I did feel like I was in the center of it all. Dialog was crisp and clear as was everything else. I stopped the movie short because it was getting late and I wanted to move on to some music.
It was a little problematic going from TV to Airplay. While my iPad showed that the song was being Airplayed to the Theatre no sound was coming out. I had to reboot the Theatre in order to Airplay to it. This is not the first time this happened, switching sources on its own can be an issue. I really wish you could change the source on the B&O app. I know Airplay is a different beast but I shouldn’t have to reboot between sources. I can change the source easily on the Halo and I had to do so many times.
All the music I played sounded wonderful. The system provides a beautiful soundstage with the 18’s. The bass is strong but not overpowering and the treble is nice and crisp. It will be a joy to listen to music! I can hardly wait until I get my usb adapter from Steve so I can listen to some records. Tomorrow maybe?
I fretted a little in purchasing the 18’s and 19 over the BL28. My reasoning was since they are being used with the Theatre I didn’t need another very complex system, and that I might be better served in the long-term with basic speakers that don’t need software updates and there are no moving parts! I also prefer the looks of the BL 18’s. It turned out to be a good decision as I really like the 18’s and 19.
There are still bumps in the road with the software especially when changing sources I hope are worked out quickly. I also had to calibrate my speakers twice with a reboot in between because something didn’t go right the first time and without the reboot there was no sound when doing the calibration.
Now for the BIG job of doing cable management and cleaning up the cable mess.
Do the 18’s up front widen the width of the soundstage?
Yes they do. Now I don’t have them that far from the Theatre, probably about 18″ away, but it does improve the soundstage, and along with the BL 19 I think the bass is more pleasing. The bass is definately noticable coming from the Theatre alone, but I think it blends better and not so noticable with the 19’s. All settings are from the calibration.
Edit: Loudness on the Theatre is turned off.
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I have two listening positions, one with just the Theatre and the other with all 5 connected speakers. While listening to music I have been switching between the 2 positions. There is a 2 to 3 second gap when selecting the new position, but I prefer the sound with the 18’s acting as front left and right. It “feels” slightly more bassy with just the Theatre. Not a huge difference, but just a subtle difference as it feels more open with the 18’s, which would make sense. Once the music is playing just on the Theatre after a little while I forget which position it is in and does sound very pleasing. I am glad I have the 18’s up front though!
Tunein had some internet radio stations that I listen to that B&O Radio didn’t initially have. I made a request to B&O to see if they could add them and they did shortly after.
I guess I am not one of the lucky ones that can use my BL 17’s wirelessly. My test started out well and they played for about an hour, then I had to go somewhere. When I got back they played for about 10 seconds and then shutdown. The BL18’s are more stable wirelessly but not 100%. It’s dissapointing that I can’t benefit from the wireless features of the Theatre.
Wow, it seems that it is widely regarded that the WISA standard isn’t very good, or at least usable under certain circumstances. B&O relies heavily on it for its products it seems. Is that wise?
I am going to conduct a test. I created a new listening position with just the BeoLab 17’s and the BeoLab 19 as “Rear Stereo”. At the beginning of the calibration the BeoLab 17’s “were there”, after finishing the 17’s seemed to go offline and needed to be unplugged. Could this be a Theatre issue and not WISA? I can now play music to them and I can hopefully get an idea how stable the wireless is.
I read a post I think on this thread that someone said their BL17’s were rock solid on WISA. It was their BL19 they had daily night problems with. So I’m not giving up yet!
I haven’t used the system much except for tv, but every time I “Play sound” today it worked.
I am wondering if a firmware update on the BL 17s will fix this? I don’t think I can do it because it looks like you need a Transmitter 1 to do it.
I received my Beosound Theatre, BeoLab 18s, BeoLab 19, and BeoRemote One BT yesterday.
The Theatre didn’t have the user manual included as shown in the installation videos. The video skipped over attaching the side fins which needed to be done. After that it was pretty much as the video showed. I am using my BeoLab 17s that used to be connected to an Essence MkII, now in wireless mode for the rear speakers. Once I assembled the BeoLab 18’s and unboxed the 19 and set them in place I plugged everything in. To my delight doing a scan on the Theatre everything was discovered correctly, and after the calibration all the correct roles were assigned. As a result of the BeoLab 18’s being assigned front left and right, the corresponding channels on the Theatre are disabled. I don’t know if that means that the speakers are unused or if they are at least partially assisting the other channels as described in the sound design video from B&O. This part went pretty smoothly.
I watched the beginning of The Greatest Showman on 4K disk and it seemed fine, but I am not able to compare it with anything. I listened to a lot of music, looking for something with a lot of bass. I came to one song I was really familiar with and I thought it sounded kind of “tinny”. I looked up and saw that the lights on the 18’s and 19 was red. They evidently shut down. After rebooting the Theatre I tried again and things sounded better. I’m not sure why the front speakers shutdown? Wireless issue? I used the B&O app to “Play sound” on all the speakers and noticed it wasn’t playing on the 17’s behind me. I unplugged the 17’s and then it was fine again. Music sounded very good and I am pleased with all of it. I then watched a stereo concert from a blu-ray that I ripped to AppleTV. It was really good, but being stereo not really any rear channel activity. I paused and did a “Play sound” just to check everything. Again no sounds from the 17’s. Another unplug and they were working again.
This morning I AirPlay’ed a song to the Theatre and notice all lights were green. A good sign. But looking at the rear right the light went from green to red to green again. I’m not sure what that means.
I paired the BeoRemote One with the Theatre and one of the first things I noticed was a flaky volume control. I could take the volume all the way down, but I could only raise it a little bit. The volume control of the Halo worked fine. I later noticed that this behavior on the BeoRemote One was only this way when I was using AirPlay. There must be some kind of communication between the AirPlay source and the Theatre that is still a little shaky. It does work sometimes.
Other odd things I can’t change the settings for the virtulized speakers, up-firing and side firing speakers. I also can’t find the source list in the B&O app like Steve mentions in his post about the line-in input.
My B&O USB-C adapter didn’t arrive yet so I purchased an Apple variant. I can’t get it to work yet, so no turntable. Are they different adapters or do I have a setting wrong. I have to choose source from the Halo.
Things seem ok for the most part but I’m most concerned about the BeoLab 17’s shutting down. I guess it is probably a wireless issue, but I really want to use wireless if possible.
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It can be a tough decision. I currently have the BeoSystem 4 as my control center. When I moved to a 4K TV it suddenly it became a little less useful, still worked ok for the audio, but a little more “clunky”. I considered other brands solutions, including Marantz but something inside me prevented me from pulling the trigger, possibly much like you.
Products like the Theatre are heavily dependant on software and it’s typically buggy in the beginning. I’m still fighting software issues with a stereo paired set of Levels. My Theatre should arrive tomorrow and I am prepared for some software issues. The Theatre is very expensive (at least for me) and a lot of thought has gone into it to determine if it is the best replacement system. For me the answer is yes.
I’m sure most of the issues with the Theatre will be worked out over time, and then you may get a better feeling if the Theatre is the right replacement system for you.
If you look at the connectivity specifications for the Theatre, under Remote control it lists:
Integrated system control, including LG OLED TV:
Beoremote One BT
Bang & Olufsen App
So currently it looks like the Halo is not for the video functions.