[Madskp]

TK wrote:

: with respect to the BC2300, I think that it speaks ML, and not MCL2, which would mean for the moment that there would be a bit more hardware to acquire in the form of an ML/MCL converter just to get the communications working (I’ll get to ML support at some point in the future, but probably it will be a while)

Actually the BC2300 does not have ML but instead both DL80 and DL86 in the same AUX connector on pin 7 and pin 6 respectivly

But as mentioned for BS Ouverture and BC9300 I guess that the DL80 dataline responds to both the TAPE2 and the PHONO command

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[Madskp]

pl212 wrote:

One particular use case I’m curious about would be a “smart” interposer device, for units such as the BeoCenter 2300 with only one AUX port. In theory this could intercept a start signal from either a BeoGram or a BeoTooth, and allow just that device to switch the 2300 on to that source. (A kind of automated version of the old four-port AUX Expander.)

I was wondering of something of the same kind for BS Ouverture and BC9300 in this thread https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beosound-ouverture-2-external-sources-y-cable/ as they can detect/send both PHONO and TAPE2 commands for the same AUX connection. The conclusion in that topic was that some switching circiut between the 2 audio lines might be needed depending on which source is detected, so that would have to be part of such solution.

 

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[Madskp]

If I understand correctly your BL3500 will connect directly to a BLC thus being the only ML  unit in that ML chain?

if that is correct then as Guy also point out you will need something to supply the correct voltages in that ML chain.this can either be

– A ML audio system

– A ML TV

– A ML powerbox

– or a Beolink Converter 1611

In my opinion the last one will be the cheapest and most simple solution.

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[Madskp]

Hello

I had something similar going on with my BS Ouverture over in this thread https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beosound-ouverture-cd-not-working/#post-50361 I started with cleaning the laser, and later replaced it which did change some of the behavioiur, but could still not get it to play. I then recapped the board on the back of the CD mechanism which helped getting it to play:  https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beosound-ouverture-cd-not-working/#post-50369

However it had and still have the issue that I most times has to press CD twice to get it to play, but other than that no issues.

Maybe you can find something usefull in that thread.

jacope wrote:

Disc motor does not start: If focus is searched and the laser switches on, and yet the disc motor does not rotate, the error is probably in the transport mechanism itself. For
further service tips, see section 5 (section 7 as regards Beocenter/
Beosystem 2500-2300).

This states to reference section 5 (or 7), but transport issues are not specifically mentioned here.

I have also noticed the lack of these chapters for the newer type of CD mechanism in the servicemanuals available on Beoworld. Would be nice if someone had a fully updated version of this service manual. Maybe @Multicare has something that is not uploaded to the product section yet?

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[Madskp]

Guy wrote:

Here it is – basically isolates the power and data connections:

Picture extracted from here (half way down page):  https://beoworld.org/wiring-diagrams/

And it comes from the MCL System manual 89-90

I notice that it just says below 32 degrees which must be in fahrenheit for it to make sense as that equals 0 degrees celsius.

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lausvi wrote:

Related to the accessorie, I was happy to find this desktop mount for the ‘oblong’ transceiver (in this case a white one) some years ago. I think it looks quite nice sitting on an angle.

Yes thats a nice assecory. I also have one of these in my collection

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[Madskp]

lausvi wrote:

That’s got to be a 3rd-party electrical box, B&O probably made only the foam inserts themselves

I agree looks like a very generic box

lausvi wrote:

Not very practical either to be disconnecting the outdoor units if the temperature falls below 0° (as the instructions say!).

No, but I think there is a circuit description of how to make a switch for that in some of the MCL documentation, so B&O did something to make this solution plausible.

lausvi wrote:

I like how they call the older rectangular MCL transceiver the “oblong” one 😀

I did not notice that myself, but I can see what you mean. Not the word I would choose for it, but the translater might have had a limited vocabulary.

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[Madskp]

Here is another item I will give away for the price of postage

2 pcs. AV9000 Audiokit type 1610

I have no way to test them, so for trial and error for a AV9000 owner

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[Madskp]

You can see the pinout for the 7 pin DIN here https://beoworld.org/wiring-diagrams/

Its the one called datalink

 

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[Madskp]

CharlieWednesday wrote:

I’ve tried every other conceivable option setting but none of it works – I either get nothing, or limited functionality.  It seems so strange the B&O would build IR mapping into the Beolink Converter, but not allow for the full setup to work via only that one IR Eye?

I think the reason for that is that the Beolink Coverter (besides being a converter between NL and ML ) works more like a link room with it’s own speakers. So when you activate a source from it it activates that source directly through the link cables (in your case the Aux input on the BS4) and has no need to activate the BS3 for this function to work, and also do not need to activate the BS3 speakers.

Your option settings on the products  mostly has to do with what type of IR commands your product accept (no IR/audio/video/audio and video/link+), and does not define how it reacts to commands from a link room.

 

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[Madskp]

CharlieWednesday wrote:

I tried having both the BLC and the BS3 in Opt.1, but that way the BS3 only responds to Video sources, not Audio sources.  My speakers need to be connected to the BS3 because I have a full set of surround speakers (front, surround, centre, sub).

What exactly do you mean by ‘Powerlink Switch’?

Both Almando and Onermote has these. They have two powerlink inputs and one output for the speakers. One of the connected inputs is always connected to the speakers, but when the other product is turned on it will switch to that product instead.

In your case it could be inserted between the front speakers and the TV/Music system

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[Madskp]

CharlieWednesday wrote:

I have however experienced another issue.  Because both my BS3 and the NL/ML Converter have IR eyes connected, both are responding to remote commands, so for example if I hit 1, I get 11.  I tried setting the BS3 to Opt.0, but if it’s in Opt.0, it does not come out of standby at all when I select a source.  If I set it to Opt.1, it only responds to video sources, not audio sources (My Beosound 4 is set to Opt.0, and I’m sure that’s the only right option to use there, as my speakers are connected to the BS3). This feels like something there should be a solution to, but I haven’t found it yet!

One possibility could be to connect the speakers via a Powerlink switch and set both the BLC and the TV to option 1.  This way the speakers can be shared between the TV and the music system and none of them react to commands form the other.

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[Madskp]

Great to hear that you finally got a working solution for this, although a complicated one 🙂

CharlieWednesday wrote:

I also connected a Chromecast Audio to the TV/Aux input of the BM7000, so that if I do select A.Aux by remote, both the BS4 and the BM7000 go to A.Aux as a source and I can cast music from my phone or tablet.  The BM7000 has therefore also allowed me to add an extra source too.

But how are the A.aux command mapped in this situation? Or is that not going through the NL/ML converter?

CharlieWednesday wrote:

My Beomaster 5 remains connected (set as an audio slave) and it does not seem to have been adversely affected – it still responds to the N.Music command from my remotes.

But what about N.radio? Is the BS5 not responding when you use that for the redcord player scenario?

CharlieWednesday wrote:

I’m guessing that means that the N.Radio signal from a Beoremote One is different somehow?

Yes something must be different, although I cannot  say what that could be.

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[Madskp]

CharlieWednesday wrote:

Disregard – I solved it, but I don’t know how.  I disconnected everything, reconnected everything, changed a few settings, and I’m pretty sure I ended up with the same as I started with, but now it’s working!  Maybe I just had a loose connection somwhwre.

Then nevermind my comments. But I would be interesting to hear the settings you did to achive this?

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[Madskp]

If I should guess you are trying to get the BS4 Aux input activated with the PHONO/N.RADIO command by trying to change the command in the NL/ML converter?

Good thinking, but I am not sure that it is possible. If I understand the manual for the NL/ML converter correctly the IR mapping features is for choosing which source name a ML source should have on the NL network:

Not sure if that also applies for the Converter IR eye too. Others might know better. I can also try to test it at one point, but it might take some days before I have the possibility to do so.

Just to be sure what you are doing:

– What role have you setup the NL/ML converter to have?

– Is the IR mapping setting you are mentioning like this:

?

 

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[Madskp]

You are welcome, and great that it worked.

Btw. you mentioned in your first post that you had to press link CD on the remote to get the CD playing.  Can you do that by pressing just CD now?

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[Madskp]

I have now tried to test with the Beoplay M3 instead of the Beoplay V1, and with Both the BC2 and BS Ouverture I can get the Beoplay M3 to start playing. The sound is for some reason very bad (it works great when I do  airplay), but the functionality is there.

Only thing I changes was to make the Beoplay M3 the primary and secondary product to connect to in the NL/ML converter setup.

Please let me know if this calls for any other testing scenarios

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[Madskp]

I have now tried the same test with my Beocenter 2. At first it did not work. I could start it from the Beoplay V1 and control it, but if I used the buttons on the BC2 it could not start the TV. Later I found out that was because I had speakers connected to the BC2. When I disconnected them I could start the Beoplay V1 TV by pressing the DISC button on the BC2.

In my previously testing with the BS Ouverture there was speakers connected to that, but that did not seem to matter for this functionality, so there might be some differences in how different systems do this feature.

I also checked settings on the TV again, and I am not sure if this is something I have set manually, or if it wast automatically set based on the settings in the NL/ML converter, so here goes (disclamer my menu language is Danish, so translation might be different with english menus):

In the menu Product integration ->Connect to other products

Product 1: Beolink Converter NL/ML

Speakers to: Beolink Converter NL/ML

If this has to be set manually it might make a difference in behaviour

 

carolpa wrote:

BS7000 – BLC –  NL : start cd with button on BG CD7000 – NL source doesn’t start this evening (but I’m not sure this was the same before I powered everything down this afternoon, but forgot the Beosystem 7000 and the T1611

Do you have a Powerlink cable between the Beomaster 7000 and the T1611 along with the 7 pin DIN cable? That is required for buttons on the music system to control connected Video Master in ML systems.

And for your setup that might be the problem since this feature is from the ML world where it would activate the TV in the setup. But you connect to a music systems (the Core) in the NL world. Not sure if this has impact when the NL/ML converter is translating. I will try later to see if I can do the same with my Beoplay M3.

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[Madskp]

Yes it is. You will have to use the connectors marked Powerlink and connect to the speakers with Powerlink cables

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[Madskp]

I have just tried now with Besound Ouverture (A.opt. 0) – NL/ML converter – Beoplay V1 (V.opt. 2)

The setup of the NL/ML converter is as follows:

Pressing CD on the BS Ouverture starts the Beoplay V1 and the music is playing through it’s speakers. So it works, at least with the Ouverture.

I have quick start timers activated on the Beoplay V1, not sure if that makes any difference, but just for the full picture.

I might be able to do some more testing later in the week with other music system, and also with a Beoplay M3 as the NL source to see if that works just as well.

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