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3 October 2024 at 18:38 in reply to: App Control of Masterlink Products Using Beolink Converter NL/ML #59745
I assume there is some sort of conflict between ML RADIO (which I want to be the BC2300 FM radio) and the B&O RADIO (effectively internet radio) that is part of the app. Anyone know if I can change settings to access the BC2300’s FM RADIO via the B&O app? EDIT: I have tried putting the BC2300 in A.OPT 0, and then adding an IR sensor to the NL/ML Converter – I have IR mapped the ML sources. I can select all mapped BC2300 sources (including RADIO) using the Beo4, but the RADIO source still does not appear in the app.
Not really sure, but what if you map Radio to another source in the NL/ML converter?
The Beosystem 4 only have the connection for the IR signal, so it can not use the functions from the buttons even though they are there
Hi again. For easy replacement it would be the whole front panel with the displsy you need.
probably Ebay could be a source.
here in Denmark it is often cheaper to buy a complete Beolab 3500 than spare parts for it
Looking forward to the development in this 😀
To bad that the update did not change anything
Another thing I was thinking about, should the 15V outlet on the MCL2P be connected to something for everything to work?
No thats for powering a MCL2AV if the MCL2P is used as an amplifier for that.
Is there any obvious way to see if IR is broken?
Not that I know of other than not reacting to option or service commands
In what mode does the BeoLab 3500 need to be in, in order to react to the remote control commands? Should I see the clock in the display before?
It is not dependent on the clock showing. This is transfered from the Beosystem 2500, but I have a note saying that this was not working on SW 1.0. Anyway the BL3500 should just be turned on to be able to recieve commands
One last question, in what order do I press the buttons on the remote control. Do I press one button at the time, or at the same time?
On at the time
The MCL2P turns green when I turn on the BeoSystem 2500, so the cable is working. When pressing the mute button on the BeoLab 3500, the display shows (for example: cd 1) what is playing on the BeoSystem 2500, but I never get any sound. All the buttons on the BeoLab 3500 works and the systems are talking to each other (I can turn on the BeoSystem 2500 by pressing mute button on the BeoLab 3500).
This clearly indicates that your cables works (at least for the communications part).
But how do I change this option setting if the BeoLab 3500 doesn’t respond to the remote control?
If it does not respond to the options commands: Link, 2, Store the I think the IR receiver might have a failure.
Might this indicate that the BeoLab 3500 is broken? Or might it be that the volume on the BeoLab is on 0 and can only be changed using the remote control?
hard to tell if it’s one or the other. But since the remote is not working you can not even put it in a test mode to check the sound input. So first thing would probably be to get the IR reciever repaired and then take it from there
Hello againI tried connecting the BeoLab 3500 to the MCL 2P and from the MCL 2P to the BeoSystem 2500. They talk to each other but I don’t get any sound from the BeoLab 3500 (only from the BeoSystem 2500). I made a sketch of the setup (don’t judge my drawing :)). The red line show what cable I used when trying to connect the BeoLab 3500 to the BeoSystem 2500.
The cables looks to be the right ones. The Powerlink cable have to be a specific type to activate the MCL2P. You can confirm this if the MCL2P has a green light on the front? If it is red then it is not activated. If so try without the powerlink Y cable.
I also tried using the BeoLink 1000 and Beo4 controler with no success. Both controls work for the BeoSystem 2500 but I have no communication from the control to the BeoLab 3500. Only the buttons on the BeoLab 3500 works. Is there something I am doing wrong? Sometimes I can get the display on the BeoLab 3500 to flash brighter red when pressing buttons on the Beo4 or BeoLink 1000 control, but still no respons. Can the IR eye be broken? And do I need the control to start the BeoLab 3500 or can I do it with the buttons on the BeoLab?
The mute button on the Beolab 3500 should make it join whatever is playing on the Beosystem 2500, or start the radio if the Beosystem 2500 is in standby.
Regarding the remote control have you tried to do option settings? Option 0 is no IR, so if that is set you can not use normal commands before it is changed to option 1 or 2
However it is not unheard of the the IR part of the Beolab 3500 is broken. There is a great repair guide for it in this thread if you are able to do it yourself https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beolab-3500-sometimes-responds-to-remote-control-sometimes-it-doesnt/#post-29738
Regarding my earlier comment about other connection options that will not be possible without a software upgrade as the SW ver. 1.0 does not support use of the Masterlink connection
1 October 2024 at 18:42 in reply to: App Control of Masterlink Products Using Beolink Converter NL/ML #59660I have one question that isn’t covered in the NL/ML Installation Guide (version 1.4). Half way down the settings page there are ‘App Settings’. I have set the ‘Icon Shown in Apps’ to Beovision 10 as you can see below: (the other icon options are Beovisions 9, 8, 7 and 3) But I am unclear as to where to expect to see that BeoVision 10 icon. All I get when using the B&O app to control the TV (via Beolink Converter) is a picture of the Beolink Converter, as you can see below:
I have noticed this setting, but did not pay much attention to it for my test use of the converter. I think mine is set to Beovision 10, and in the App only the BLC NL/ML is shown as you have also noticed.
Maybe more extensive users of the BLC NL/ML have more knowledge about this functionality.
t a BeoSystem 2500 and in that package I also received a BeoLab 3500 and an amplifier MCL 2P. My question is, how do I connect the BeoLab soundbar to the BeoSystem 2500? I heard something about a MCL2AV.
The MCL2P can be used to convert the Powerlink output on the Beosystem 2500 to a MCL network where the Beolab 3500 can be connected provided the BL3500 is a MK1 version (you can see that by checking if MCL is engraved in the metal under the 8 Pin DIN connector on the back of it). Do you have the cables for it?
There might also be other options to connect it depending on the SW version of the Beolab 3500, but then you will need another converter box in that case. Sometimes the software version is printed on the label on the back of it SW x.x, or else you should be able to see it by presssing Menu, 0, 0, Play on the Beolink 1000
MCL2AV can not be used for this.
I also heard that the settings on the BeoLab needs be on “option 1”. How do I change this setting without a controller (I only have a Beolink 1000 for the BeoSystem 2500). Do I need to buy a Beo4 controller?
The option settings should be 2 when used with MCL . Option settings can be done with the Beolink 1000 by pressing Link, X (option number), Store
If you have further questions you are welcome to ask again
An alternative could still be a Beomaster 3500/4500/5500/6500/7000 instead of the MCL2AV in the same setup. Not so easy to hide though.
Just to confirm this I repeated the test with my BM4500 – 1611 – Beocenter 6-23, and it also works in first try just like with the Beocenter 9300.
One thing I’ve just realised though – I don’t think the Beosystem 3 has an IR sensor built in – does that mean I will need an IR Eye? I do have a couple of those spare (with the wrong type of cable connection, but I can change that), but does anyone know if this is necessary?
I don’t know if you are able to get the IR commands via the Masterlink Gateway from the BS4, but if not I would say that you will need an IR eye for the BS3.
My thinking is, I use the Beosystem 3 in Opt 1, my Beosound 4 in Opt 2, and put the Beovision 7 into Opt 0.
I don’t think that will work. Check my comments in the earlier post https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beovision-7-32-with-beosystem-3/#post-59274
’m hoping the BV7 will be clever enough to power on when it gets a signal from the Beosystem 3,
I am not sure it is. remember the BS3 is practically a Beovision without the monitor, so there would be only few usecase scenarios where a TV should turn on another TV
To bad. At one point I found a link to another type of modification in this post https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/bl3500-and-the-mcl-pl-connector/page/3/#post-44590
I might be at some inspiration to how the BL3500 is activated even though this project replace the control part of the BL3500.
can I replace the MCL2A one at a time. for a MCL2AV on the same wire with active speakers. wil that room than be individualy from the others
That is a possible solution yes. The IR eyes are the same so you can replace wires 1 to 1. However the MCL2AV will need an external power adapter so you will need an outlet near the placement.
Beolab 3500 MK1 also has MCL integrated so also an option for individual volume control
The MCL2AV’s might not be that easy to find, so another option as suggested by Guy is to replace the MCL2A’s with Beolink passives (you allready have two and just need the newer IR eye) or Beolink Actives if you go for active speakers. Also the dedicated link room speakers Beolab 3500 and 2000 can be used here.
This will call for new cabeling for masterlink of course but you could do the conversion in sections
The Speakers is the rooms are pasive. What i do not onderstand is that it used to work. you could adjust the sound individualy in the rooms. And what does the MCL2AV actualy do?
Unless there are any hidden components that we do not see I can not figure out how that would have worked.
The MCL2AV can convert the amplified speaker level signal in the MCL system to a line level signal that can be volume regulated. This however only works for the powerlink outputs on the MCL2AV thus requirering the use of Active speakers or an amplifier between the MCL2AV and passive speakers.
If passive speakers are connected directly to its passive speaker ports it works just a the MCL2A relay box without individual volume control.
Andre Bolhoeve wrote: so only room one is now individual from the others I think that this is the best that you can hope for with only two ‘Passives’. Two amplifiers = two volume levels.
You should also be able to have individual volume control in the room where the MCL2AV is placed if it has Powerlink speaker connected. If it has passive speakers connected then it is probably setup to act as a MCL2AV like the others and will follow the volume
I just bougt this house. I think there was a bV 7 where I placed the 9000. And an other tv in a other room. When i placed the 9000 i had onley sound from 5 rooms there was no linkcabel connected to the nl/mcl unit. the volume worked undepended in the 5 rooms. they adviced me to place the splitter and connect the link cabel also to the nl/mcl unit. It looked like it worked. but the next day the sound was going up and down at the same time in all the rooms. Even when i restored it and disconnected the link cabel from the nl/mcl
Ok this explains some of the confussion with this system.
I have a feeling that this may have been connected differently years ago and then have been upgrade. Probably the Beolink passive and the ML-MCL box was not part of it to begin with (these two amplifier boxes are by the way the same, just with different naming and type numbers).
I wil try to disconnect the powerlink conection tomorrow. and see what happened.
I think that will be a good start as there should not be any ring connction between the units, and the MCL system after the amplifier boxes should work independently of each other.
There is one thing that i noticed today. The MLC2AV makes a hhhhhssssssssss sound for about 15 secondens when powerd up then this stops. i disconected the power from the MLC2AV for now. To be save. the sound stil will go up and down in al rooms with the MLC2AV disconected from power
I would not suspect that in the first place
Hi again
Wow that is somewhat complicated, and I guess that you could have misread some connections between things, but this give a better picture of what you are dealing with.
Like Guy I also wonder what the purpose of the orange wire is, and if it is actually connected to the MCL2E in the other end?
The MCL2E is an extender that is used when there is more than 4 zones in a MCL sytem, and I wonder if it is nessecary the way your system seems to be divided with two amplifiers. But I would leave it for now so you don’t make to many changes.
Have you recently done any unplugging of cables on the 1655? Could it have been a cable that should go into the IR port instead? Like guy suggest I would also try to power down the system, remove that cable and start it up again to see how things react.
The three grey boxes shown in the lover left corner are MCL2A and so is the first box after the 1551. These are as mentioned earlier just relay boxes to activate speakers and will follow the volume of the amplifier, so I will suspect that some of your zones has had the same volume control all the time.
I will asume that some of the MCL2A boxes are connected to the red wire from the 1655.
The IR eyes connect to the MCL2A and MCL2AV boxes to control them. It is the thin grey wire going into them. So every room should have a IR eye and a grey box (MCL2A or MCL2AV).
Also I wonder what the deal is with the ML delay box? are there other Masterlink components that we do not see from these drawings?
I got the mail yesterday, and links are working
Just to be sure, doea the small grey boxes have connectors on the front or just a flat surface?
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