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@Rolf2 I like the idea of your road trip – keep some of your stories for dinner!

Right, will do that 👍😁!

I’m deliberating over a large cabin bag for my Easyjet flight…it’s an extra £100 but I suppose I’ll want to buy some souvenirs.

A good point, regarding the question of souvenirs. What could be recommended to take home? My wife suggested Gammel Dansk? I, myself have high hopes in the offers of the B&O factory outlet 🤣!

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Millemis wrote:

Rolf2 wrote:
I have made my bookings and will arrive at Billund airport on Wednesday 8th at 14.00 h. Then I will drive with a rental car to Struer. If someone is taking the same way, we can share the car – and a nice ride, sharing knowledge and stories about B&O stuff, getting ready for the tour 😎🤣.

Kind regards,

Rolf
If you – and/or others – are driving (from Billund -> Struer, I can highly recommend a stop in Herning (which is on the road, that you are driving, just 50 km before you arrive in Struer).
In Herning you can find one of the best/most beautiful B&O shops in Denmark.
If you are in for a short stop to have a coffee or more, look out for the café in the public library – also located in the pedestrian area there.

MM

Hey thanks for the interesting advice. I will have a stop there if time allows it, either on my way to Struer or back to the airport at Billund.

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CharlieWednesday wrote:

Strange – the MCP6500 will control basic functions on my Beocenter 9500 (but without 2-way communication), but not on my Beomaster 4500.  My Beomaster 4500 is SW2.2 so it should support 2-way remotes, but I get nothing when trying to control it with the MCP6500.

The 4500 is still responding fine to my Beolink 1000, Beo4 and Beo6 remotes.  I’m assuming there’s some different software/compatibility issue in play then, or maybe my 4500 has a fault that I’m not aware of.

Ah, you are right, I forgot about that point. Yes, I also get no response from the BM 4500 when sending the remote commands via MCP, same s/w as yours.

Also thanks for the advice on the Beolink 5000’s Rolf, but I didn’t keep hold of either of my faulty ones, as I believed they were not repairable.

I’ve seen working BL5000s for sale for about £350 on eBay, but that seems a lot to spend just to satisfy my curiosity.

Get you a working one with dead display, in Germany they come up at around € 30,- to 80,-, depending on the seller and the condition. Ask Mathieu or Steffen and you will receive a nicely working one for a – in my opinion – decent price (far) below £350.

However, you already own a really nice two-way remote terminal you can use, once the BM is up and running.

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Guy wrote:

CharlieWednesday wrote:
Will they, for example, work with my Beocenter 9500 or Beomaster 4500, with two-way remote?
Sadly no.

I tried my MCP5500 with my BC9500 several years ago.  Although some of the simple functions work (source selection etc), the two-way IR seems incompatible, hence important stuff like volume control will not work correctly.

Have to confirm that, as I recently acquired another BM 6500 and BG 6500 CD with a MCP 6500, all in white. The MCP is working fine on a two-way level with the BM 6500, whereas with e. g. my BeoSystem 9500 it is acting like Guy described it.

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There are two ways I know of, how you possibly can get your BL 5000´s repaired:

1. Either with a modded E-Ink screen „MK Pilatomic“ 😁, which you can find here

Since a couple of days I received my second „new“ BL 5000 from Pilatomic. They really, really work fine and I enjoy it everytime, turning on and operating my two-way B&O with them.

2. Or through a repair of the ribbon cable and – if necessary – recapping, which you can find here

I sent several units to Steffen for checking, which ones may be possibly repairable.

I hope this helps.

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Rolf

 

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I wanted to add the answers from B&O support:

Regarding my question of possible direct IR control through the sensor of the BV 4-50:

1. IR Control: You are correct in your interpretation, there is no possibility for direct connectivity between the panel and the BeoSystem 4 for IR control. An IR blaster is required. As stated by our team: The IR blaster is for 3rd party screen/projector ON/OFF control. We regret that there is no B&O cable available to enable a direct IR connection between the BeoSystem 4 and a panel with a built-in IR receiver.

And to my question of possible monitor control:

2. Monitor Control: Regarding monitor control, our team reviewed the information and attached documentation. However, at this time, there is no specific Bang & Olufsen cable available for connecting the BeoSystem 4 to the BV 4-50 panel. While we understand you’ve identified a Panasonic RJ45 to DSUB9 cable online, our team is unable to confirm whether this third-party cable would function correctly with the BeoSystem 4. As such, we cannot guarantee compatibility.

So, in the end I decided to cancel the exchange of my BSys 3 and am still using it.

Thanks a lot to Madskp and MM for your helpful thoughts and hints!

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Guy wrote:

I think that question has been asked before but the Archived2 Forum doesn;t appear to working at present.

I searched through Google but nothing appropriate came up, also not from beoworld archived forums.

I did find this article which states they cannot be paired:  https://www.pocket-lint.com/speakers/news/bang-and-olufsen/139368-b-o-play-a2-active-is-the-a2-on-steroids/

Thanks a lot for hinting me to this article, that is confirmation that it will not work. A pity, because I thought of buying an additional A2 Active, complimenting my A2, Stereo pairing it.

Thank you for your support Guy!

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Hi,

here are some older threads dealing with the topic, maybe this helps: RX2 DC_1, RX2 DC_2.

My pics:

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Madskp wrote:

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@Madskap: Thanks a lot for the link to the respective thread. I will check with my dealer, if this cable will be still available. If not, maybe Steve can help. From my experience, the DVD 2 needs both connections, HDMI and Scart. The BSys 3 seems to connect them together automatically, if you choose the right connection plugs (in my case HDMI-In 3 and Scart 3). I do not know, if the BSys 4 does put the mini-AV and HDMI „XY“ automatically together, very likely not.

I just tested on my Beoplay V1 (that is based on the Bsys 4 platform), and I am not able to setup a connection where I combine the AV socket with a HDMI socket, so I guess you would depend on using the analog video signal for the DVD2 if you want to be able to control it with the remote.

Thank you for testing! I tried to connect the DVD 2 to my BV 10-46, which is in principle a „lower spec“ BSys 3 with LCD / LED panel, and it did not work together well. You could see the picture in a bad quality, and no sound was available. So I already guessed, that the BSys 4 will no longer have the capability for this „old stuff“. Good to get confirmation now, even if another result would suit the case better.

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@Madskap: Thanks again for hinting me to the Beolink handbook. Did not think about that. The panel has a built in IR receiver, so I prefer to establish a direct connection between the BSys and the panel for IR control. There is also a specific cable for connecting the BSys 3 (Monitor control) and the panel. In this case I would need a rj-45 to DSUB9 cable for connecting to the BSys 4. I can find one from Panasonic on the internet, but it seems to be available on the Japanese market only, and I do not know, if it will be the right one.

Ok so does that mean that the IR has a separate cable between the BV4 and Bsys 3? In that case a converter cable could bed made, but probably as a DIY solution if the Pinout can be detected.

Yes, exactly, there are two specific cables from B&O for connecting the BSys 3 and the BV 4-50 panel, giving direct IR- and Monitor control. In an old thread a user refers to those converter cables, which at that time could be purchased from the B&O dealer or made as a DIY solution. I am not able to manufacture such a cable by myself. Additionally, I would need the Monitor control cable.

Rolf2 wrote:

BeoMedia 1

The Beomedia 1 could probably be connected via a VGA to HDMI adapter. Note that there are simple cable adapter for the other way, but in this case It has to be one that converts the analog signal til digital. I can see that some of them also can get sound from the “PC” to HDMI.

For control as you mention yourself an external IR eye, and then setup the HDMI connection on the Bsys 4 to PC command. I guess that should work.

According to the BeoMedia 1 manual, page 16, picture 2 – I have not dealt a long time with those connections – using a VGA to HDMI connection seems to require additional audio connections, for which I guess will be no fitting input on the BSys 4. Using a Scart to HDMI adapter may be successful, integrating audio and video signals, as shown in the manual on the same page in picture 1.

Rolf2 wrote:

I am thinking of connecting the BSys 3 as external source to the HDMI-In of the BSys 4. The question will be, how to start the sources connected to the BSys 3, once it is selected via BSys 4?

If the Bsys 3 can be set in option 4 all commands will be Link + commands with will not interfere with the Bsys 4. That way you could control it, but not very user friendly.

The BSys 3 can be set to options 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6.

For your Beolab. speakers you will also need some DIN to Rj45 adapters.

Also do you connect to a Masterlink Network? Then you will also need a NL/ML converter in the mix

with all these extra cables/adapters, and the risk of limitation on your sources you might have to consider what benefits you gain from the Bsys 4 compared to the Bsys 3. Is it worth the upgrade when you keep using the BV4?

If you just need it to be NL compatible you could add an NL/ML converter to your existing setup.

 The offer includes two adapters rj-45 to PL DIN and two rj-45 to PUC adapters. And you are right, I really do consider if the endeavour is worth the effort. And there is an additional point I am considering: I have a ML / NL network established. The BSys 3 is connected to a BLC. This BLC is connected as primary source to a BeoSound Essence MK II, and as secondary source to another BLC which is the ML / NL connection for my BeoSystem 4500. So, I can get B&O Radio, Deezer or Tidal, CD, Tape and Phono via the BLC to the BSys 3.

I guess, that switching from ML to NL with the respective BSys, will even be a disadvantage in this case. Currently, I can chose the above mentioned sources and let them play over the BSys 3 without hearing the audio in the room where the respective sources are placed. Using the BSys 4, I can only join an already playing source – which I can chose as well with the current solution – but I will not be able to actively start / connect a source like it is possible via the BLC?

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I have an RX2 and will look at it this weekend. I will make a picture of the mounting, if this helps?

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Another thought:

My BSys 3 has the following sources connected:

– BeoMedia 1

– iPort 23 Sound Dock

– DVD 2

– IP TV Set-Top-Box

– ATV III

The first two it will not be possible to get connected to the BSys 4, the third one maybe. Set-Top-Box and ATV III will get connected to HDMI-In and PUC.

I am thinking of connecting the BSys 3 as external source to the HDMI-In of the BSys 4. The question will be, how to start the sources connected to the BSys 3, once it is selected via BSys 4? The BeoMedia 1 would have to be started via external IR eye, the iPort directly at the connected iPhone and the DVD 2 I am not quite sure?

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Here are the answers of the B&O support:

“You can use a HDMI to DVI-D cable to connect the Beosystem 4 to the Beovision 4-50. However, it’s not possible to connect the Beomedia 1.

If you would like to connect DVD 2 to the Beosystem 4, it is possible via the HDMI connector, however, the controls will be limited.“

In regard to the direct IR connection BSys 4 to panel:

„We would be glad to confirm that you would require an IR blaster, which can be purchased at a nearby B&O Store: https://stores.bang-olufsen.com/en/search. You can see the attached manual and example showing a projector, which is also applicable to any 3rd party device display connected to Beosystem 4.“

I answered back to them and asked them to precisely answer my questions, because the last answer is not helpful and does not clarify, if there is a cable for direct connection or not. Also, they did not answer, if there is a cable available for Monitor control, and if so, what kind of cable, and from whom and where to get it.

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@Madskap: Thanks again for hinting me to the Beolink handbook. Did not think about that. The panel has a built in IR receiver, so I prefer to establish a direct connection between the BSys and the panel for IR control. There is also a specific cable for connecting the BSys 3 (Monitor control) and the panel. In this case I would need a rj-45 to DSUB9 cable for connecting to the BSys 4. I can find one from Panasonic on the internet, but it seems to be available on the Japanese market only, and I do not know, if it will be the right one.

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@Millemis: The cable from B&O can be found on the internet, e. g. a swedish seller. I would prefer to by at my dealer, which I will check, or maybe Steve can lend a hand. As mentioned before, the DVD 2 will need both connections, HDMI and Scart.

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@Madskap: Thanks a lot for the link to the respective thread. I will check with my dealer, if this cable will be still available. If not, maybe Steve can help. From my experience, the DVD 2 needs both connections, HDMI and Scart. The BSys 3 seems to connect them together automatically, if you choose the right connection plugs (in my case HDMI-In 3 and Scart 3). I do not know, if the BSys 4 does put the mini-AV and HDMI „XY“ automatically together, very likely not.

Edit: I tried to „quote“ but could not submit it successfully?

• This reply was modified 1 month, 1 week ago by Rolf2.

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Ah, I guess I should have placed this topic under „BeoSystem“.

@Multicare: Please, move it there, if this would be the right place, thank you.

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I have made my bookings and will arrive at Billund airport on Wednesday 8th at 14.00 h. Then I will drive with a rental car to Struer. If someone is taking the same way, we can share the car – and a nice ride, sharing knowledge and stories about B&O stuff, getting ready for the tour 😎🤣.

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Rolf

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xschop wrote:

A nice set of B&O CX-100’s with a small sub is heavenly…

Hey that’s cool 😎! Is the sub in that silver metal case as one could assume? If so which brand and specs?

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Did you check the settings of the BLC? I have several in operation, one having a similar set up like you do: BS 4500 —> Converter 1611 —> BLC —> NL Network. Sometimes the mapping of the sources and IR commands has been changed without any action taken from my side. If I reprogram, everything is working again.

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A dealer will be able to upgrade your product. Updating online is no longer available.

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