[Millemis]

Maybe this helps…

MM

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[Millemis]

Oh sorry – you’re right!

My mistake ?

MM

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[Millemis]

I am not aware that the BS Core has an optical/digital out connection.

It is just for an incoming signal.

MM

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[Millemis]

You have two commands going to TuneIn….maybe that is the problem:

MM

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laseralex wrote:

Can custom URLs be entered in B&O Radio?
I have a few stations that I can’t listen to directly from TuneIn or B&O Radio.

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I am not aware that this is possible.

A few posts further up member Mark wrote:
“Tunein had some internet radio stations that I listen to that B&O Radio didn’t initially have.  I made a request to B&O to see if they could add them and they did shortly after”.

Maybe they can add your missing station as well………worth a try, I guess.

MM

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[Millemis]

Maybe this will help:

You do not need a ML Power Box there.

 

MM

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As I have understood it, you want to have sound from your tv as well as from your your turntable to either the Theatre or the BL18’s, right?

The 18’s do have multiple inputs (please consult the user guide)!

However, if you want to connect the turntable – which would be via the analog R/L input – you will need a (2 channel) preprocessor of some kind with a volume control in between = there is no volume control on a turntable and no volume control on the BL18’s either.

Connecting a tv would in most cases mean that you’d use the optical out of the tv…..which again will not have a volume control (almost 100% of all digital SPDIF outputs from a tv are at line level volume). So you’d also need a preprocessor for this – it could be one used for both sources with one connection to the BL’s.

This is something that is already built in to the BS Theatre!!!

The Theatre is built to accept a HDMI return channel signal from the tv (in order to play the sound from there and to have volume control).
Your old Bravia maybe has no HDMI/ARC (and certainly no eARC) – older tv’s mostly only have an optical output for sound.
In this case I’d certainly consider exchanging that for a more recent 55” tv…..these do not cost much nowadays – personally I’d prefer an LG C1/G1.
Something that you can check before changing the setup.

The Theatre also has an analog input (via USB dongle), that can be used for the turntable/the phono preamp.

 

Apart from all these connection and convinience considerations, you also should be aware of the importance of a strong center channel (which the Theatre features).
This is important when watching movies, especially if more people are watching (read: listening).
If you have a set of 2 channel aka stereo speakers, you depend heavily on the placement (of the speakers and the listeners) for a strong virtual/phantom center channel – means you’d have to sit right in the sweetspot!

If your main purpose is listening to music (from the turntable), the BL18’s might be the better choice.
If you use a mix of music and movie/tv listening, you’d better go for the BS Theatre imo.

As for the connection of the turntable, you should be aware that a long cable from the turntable to the speakers/the Theatre will decrease the sound (higher noice floor and maybe even hum) – cables for analog connections should be as short as possible.
Best place the turntable near by the speakers (the 18’s)/the Theatre.

Much to consider before you make the choice ?

 

MM

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[Millemis]

Not totally wireless, but almost.

Assuming that you will go for a BS Theatre, you could get an M3 (probably preused).
This has a line-in connection with line sense, where you can connect the turntable (via the riaa preamp). If you want it in the same room, you can set the start volume of the M3 to zero.

After setting up/configuring Beolink the correct way, you will be able to listen to the sources of the M3 (in your case probably only the turntable/line-in) on the Theatre. The M3 can be hidden away.
If you are not familiar with this configuration, you’d perhaps need some professional help…..unless you are the experimental type of person ?

Also be aware that your wifi network should be stable in case you are not using wired connections to your router.

I know of no other way to get the sound of a turntable ‘wirelessly’ into the Beolink network.
N.B. You can use a BS Essence MK2 or a BS Core the same way – just don’t connect any speakers there.

P.S. In case you go for the BL18’s, you must have an Essence MK2 or a Core, where these can be connected – the BS Theatre is an audiosystem and speakers in one unit.

MM

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[Millemis]

This morning there was a beta app update….which I did install.

It showed me the introduction to the ‘new ui’ and also offered the option of converting from TuneIn to B&O Radio….which then would give you the stations as you are used to – see picture. Meaning an update for all capable devices.
Obviously it was/is a general conversion for all devices – not per device.

I did as described – which was rather easy.

Unfortunately this conversion was not complete, only some of my previous TuneIn stations were available in the new B&O Radio part – and also pretty randomized.
As you can see in this picture

Of course I have immidiately made a feedback via the app and am now waiting for answers.

I post this, if someone else (also beta testing) should want to try this out.
!!!Maybe you should wait a sec!!!

The TuneIn station list is still visible in the app. However, the stations are not accesable, since all has defaulted to B&O Radio.

Of course I will post as soon as I hear from the app team.

I guess a workaround would be to add the missing stations….but that can not be a solution for everyone.

 

MM

 

 

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@Guy

If the BV7 used by THEIN has the option of assigning a HDMI input to ‘TV’, it is a later version!
With the earlier versions one could not do this.
Also it depends on the SW version of the BV….not just the actual BV type/version.

MM

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[Millemis]

You basicly want to ‘swap’ both.

This can only be done if you reassign one of the inputs to something different (in order to free up the button on the remote).
After that you can change the other and (because that button now has been freed), you can give the first one the ‘name’ that you want.

Short….if you want to use the Beo4-button – that you already use – for another input, you will have to free the input of its assignment before you can go on.

MM

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Severed_hand_of_skywalker wrote:

It’s not great. Tunein has way more options.

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Could you please describe the differences.

MM

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[Millemis]

Why not just try it out!

Every room is different.

MM

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Tak Emil!

I’ll give that a try, indeed.

My LC’s are a mix of 1’s and 2’s….so once my Hue bulbs have arrived, I’ll start testing.
One room – where my V1 is – will stay ir, obviously.

N.B.  What exactly do you mean with warm glow — ‘White Ambience’ or just ‘White’?

MM

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[Millemis]

I want a virtual bottle opener…..to open my virtual beer.

M?M

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[Millemis]

Congrats on that.

I guess not just I would want to hear what was wrong and how it was sorted!

MM

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[Millemis]

Should not be hard to find – it is a pretty good tv….when you do not want the latest 4K/Atmos thing.

MM

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[Millemis]

I have spotted a used Beolink Gateway – however, it is located far from here.

Also I found the documentation on the gateway online – that seemed more complete and informative to me than what I have found on the BLI.

Not much difference in the setup as I see it, though.

I wonder what the differences are – and if these differences will be important to me.

Maybe – in my case with the ML master/s and the converter/s in the mix – the Gateway might be the better choice?

Please pardon me my ignorance on this subject. Home automation wasn’t and still isn’t my thing – I do this just because of the change in the light controlling. (On the other hand….learning new things is never a bad idea).

So please keep on posting your hints and thoughts – these might also help other ‘newcomers’ to light/home automation controlling.

MM

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@Corolpa

You are – of course – right.

However, I already have the LC’s (and spare oldfashioned bulbs).
The problem there is the power consumption and the fact that, if – and when – I move to a Theatre setup from my current, beloved livingroom Avant 1st gen setup, I will have to make the move from ir to bt as well.

Actually I have and need only 3 scenes plus the manual dimming – Light 1,2,3 and Up/Down – in that room.
I do not need – nor want – all of the extras/all the automation stuff, that the BLI offers…..I just want to control my light with the Beoremote, period!
For this I will have to buy the – for this purpose rather expensive – BLI and spend time programming the thing, which I am sure I can…but would rather avoid doing.

After reading the kind answers here and the documentions so far, I see that there is no easier way.

Thanks for the tip getting a preused BL Gateway!

Will see what happens ?  I will report back here.

Edit!
Do I understand it correct…..if I use the Beolink Gateway, I could avoid using the second NL/ML Converter, that I am just about to install.
Or do I need the (second) converter as well?
I have ML products/Master and CD, that I want to be able to use along with my NL devices.

MM

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[Millemis]

Thank you guys!

I knew you’d be able to help – I had hoped for it to come ?

Now I have something to study – I guess I’ll have to play with the BLI, before I really understand it.

It is a pity that one has to buy an expensive device/the BLI just because you want to (read: have to) exchange your old bulbs and you still want to use the one and only Beoremote.
But I also see the reasons why this so!

Life was so easy with the old Light Controls (I have had mine for 20 + years) ?

MM

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