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Ich nutze immer noch einen BM6500.
Der ist allerdings nur da um den 6500/CD in meinem NL setup sichtbar/nutzbar zu machen.
(BM -> 1611 Konverter -> NL/ML Konverter).

Bis vor einem Jahr hatte ich noch via MCL/Speakers Link die Lautsprecher in der Küche da eingebunden.
Jetzt ist da ein Essence MK2 und meine uralten CX100 (mit einem kleinen Verstärker).

Zugegeben, etwas umständlich um im ganzen – sonst auf NL ungestellten – Haus CD’s zu hören (aber das möchte ich) und schon cool, daß man dabei den CD-player starten/stoppen usw kann.

Ich habe den Beomaster schon ewig und denke, daß er bleibt wo er ist.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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Tignum wrote:

Hi MM, hi Carolpa, I was already assuming (edit: counting on the fact) that I cannot control the BS5e through BeoLink. My aim will be to play it through a Line-in of a BLC (using A.AUX to listen to it in any of the rooms), control the content by hand (option 0). Carolpa, you confirm my thought to use the PowerLink socket for that.

I think the BS5/BM5 is very classic cool, but I am hesitant to put another big, fan-cooled box somewhere. The BS5e looks just as cool, and I hope the directly accessible nature of it will make my user experience better than I like the app/core. The downside is the low/no level of control. But hey, maybe I should see walking to my BS5e similarly romantic as flipping a record! Both haptic experiences. Keep you posted!

The BS5 Encore was meant to be a standalone unit…..
….or – as the name says – as a companion to the BS/M5, drawing on the files in the BM5.
You could have one BS/M5 and several Encores around the house.
This was made possible at some point in the evolution of the BM5……they added a DLNA server to the operation system.

Of course you can do as you (and Corolpa) suggests – that is also what Steve (SoundsHeavenly) proposes all the time as ‘integration light’.
And this can work well – but without the ‘integration’ that a NL/ML Converter can offer.
By the way, if you put the Encore into Option 4 and use The Beo4 with a Link command (before the actual command), you can remote control it without interfering with other ir-devices in the room.
You can even – with a newer Beo4 version, that can be set to Link Mode – use the remote pretty ‘normal’ (this is nice if you want to improve the WAF).

Also you have an option of connecting something – could be a turntable or an Airplay or Spotify Connect device – to the line-in port on the Encore.

Several BS/M5 users have managed to merge the system to an SSD drive, making the BM5 much faster.
If someone really wants to integrate the Beosound 5 to the setup (with ML and NL), the BS/S5 is the way to go.

P.S.
I have never heard a fan in the BM5 and the box can be hidden away.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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@Carolpa

Sure, that will work…..has been done with different devices several times.
That is pretty easy!

But I did not understand that that was meant.

’Adding’ something/the Encore to a BLC should also mean being able to use and control the individual sources  (of the Encore) within the NL/ML setup.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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Tignum wrote:

I am considering adding an Encore (don’t want the BM5) to feed into one of my BLCs)

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First of all……..you guys are awsome – it’s been a joy (and inspiration) to follow this thread ?

’….feed an Encore into a BLC’ – that sounds like an interesting project, since the Encore has no ML or alike ?

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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trackbeo wrote:

@Mikipedia is one of the few people with many speakers fulfilling several roles. @Sandyb has just the two speakers and the Theatre. Speculation: Perhaps when switching listening positions, the Theatre cycles thru each speaker, powering it up — and instead of accumulating/max-ing the wait times of all speakers before their amplifiers click on, it performs the delay per speaker (or pair) serially? After moving, when he sets it up again, maybe @Mikipedia can try with only one pair of external speakers…

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This – in my case – can’t be the reason.
As I wrote:
‘returning from a multi speaker ‘group’ to the BST alone – it takes up to 7 seconds to get sound.
The other way ‘round sound is immediately there’.

P.S.

I have 7 LP’s with 6 wired speakers (and the BST).

MM

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Mr10Percent wrote:

The only issue I have (BL90 plus 3pairs of BL3s) is the boot time for the 90s to click online and to form the latency. probably 2-3 seconds max

That is pretty normal, I guess.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

[Millemis]

Probably because you can ask Google to wake you up ?

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

[Millemis]

Det eneste du skal bruge er en adapter fra RJ45 til hun-DIN Powerlink, hvor du så sætter dine eksisterende kabler i.

You will need a RJ45/PL to 8pin DIN/PL adapter.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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The Playmaker is imo an overlooked device!

However, if you are able to….please run that with a wired ethernet connection to your router.

They should be cheap – but maybe hard to find…..depending on your location.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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My BST was updated a couple of days ago (the SW was pushed).

As of today – when opening the app – I was told the it had been regularly/automatic updated……to the same version ?

Anyway…..this time the new features/news were stated in the app (I made a screenshop just in case that could not be found again later on).
Only the new features are listed – no talk of bug fixes.

I can’t say whether the issue with the tiny sound from tv (tuner in LG) was fixed, since I generally do not use the BST on it’s own.
I made a test playing from tv with only BST – that sounded ok to me.
I guess testing on an only BST setup and with the new SW will be needed (@Sandyb).

This is how it looks in my case, when playing from the LG tuner/DVB-T.
This might be different for other users.

By the way…….changing from eARC to ARC in the LG settings made a difference in the perceived sound on the Theatre alone.
Since I only use the tuner of the LG and no apps, I have mine in the ARC setting now.
Would be nice to hear about this from others.

 

P.S. After the update I have a ‘new issue’.
Testing around I noticed that – when returning from a multi speaker ‘group’ to the BST alone – it takes up to 7 seconds to get sound.
The other way ‘round sound is immediately there.
Not a problem in our daily use cases, but weird anyway.

Also – just in case you experience this – I had crackling noices from the BST after updating.
A reboot (through the app) solved this.

 

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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The biggest difference between the two is the missing support for NL/Beolink Multiroom with the MK1.

I would be nice, it someone with daily use of the MK1 could state, whether it still supports TuneIn (I assume it does, but it needs to be verified).
It will surely not be updated to B&O Radio.

Also the support for Spotify Connect could be important (at least for some users).
Whether it supports AP2, I do not know.

For a simple standalone use regular AP in the MK1 or the Playmaker will be ok – in case someone relies on AP2 for multiroom, the AirPort Express would be the better choice.
If you are looking towards integrating with further newer B&O devices the MK2 should be your choice.

I am pretty sure that there is no CC support anymore on the MK1 – (this also seems to be the case with the MK2).

 

It will be easier to connect the BL9’s with the MK1/2 than with the APE. Also the Playmaker is better for this.

If you need remote controlling/Beo4, the Playmaker works out of the box.
The MK1/2 both need an attached ir-eye for this – alternatively you can use the Essence Remote.
With the APE you in any case will have to rely on the volume control of the app/the device from where you are airplaying.
This can imo be a bit fiddly – it is not very sensitive/precise for a set of BL9’s.

There is (kind of) support in the B&O app for the Playmaker – I’d guess for the MK1 too (?).
Full support for the MK2.

Would be nice if someone else could chime in here with the actual features of the MK1 as of today.

In case the MK1 still support TuneIn, if one needs that and likewise Spotify Connect, the MK1 – with an ir-eye/Beo4 or the Essence Remote – could be fine choice for a standalone setup with the BL9’s.

 

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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In case you haven’t seen this….

Beosystem 3300 Guide

The BM3300 has the amp built-in.
So all you need is to connect the Rogers to the Beomaster Speaker 1 output.
For this you will need 2 x 2-pin DIN plugs like these:

MM

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[Millemis]

Sure ?

Page 15 and onwards

MM

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[Millemis]

Look here – page 9

MM

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Since you will only play CD’s from the 9000, you can use the digital output there (a coax to optical converter is needed)……means a (thin) cable is needed ?
Otherweise follow the instructions from Steve regarding the PL dummy plug.

Volume will be regulated in the 28’s.

Also…..your dealer should know about this.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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@Mr10

I tried both with the ATV.
I had it first as ‘always on’ (like with my privious BV) then to test it as ‘same as’.
Now it again is ‘always on’.
No changes there.

The PUC for my Blu Ray player is ‘when changing sources’ – since that is more seldom used and is likely to use more standby power.

P.S.
I wonder if people who do not use PUC’s, have these issues???

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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Anyone tried this with the BST?

Of course you can have more than one BROne connected to the BST.
But can these each have seperate MyButtons or do they share the same?

Could be handy if you e.g. have a seperate seating for just listening to music with the setup – then you could have radio stations/playlists/linked CD player on a BROne there, whilst you on the other BROne have some for the video content at another place.

If not, that would be a feature, that I’d like to request.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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@Sandyb

Sorry to tell you, that this does not seem to make any difference.

I did disable CEC (in the two PUC-controlled devices and in the app) a while ago, after having had contacted the Costumer Care/DK.

(All 3 connected devises are on the BST)

It is very hard to describe the behaviour of the BST, since this happens pretty randomly.
The last few days it seems not to happen, if you use the same device day after day – as soon as you have used another (PUC-controlled) device or the internal tuner in between, it can happen again.
(Please note – I am not 100% certain that this is the cause).

Meanwhile I have ordered two CEC Blockers for the PUC’ed devices….which also was adviced by the Support team.
I haven’t come to connecting these, since I was waiting for the next update to see if that would change anything.
However as of today still no update here.

My wife is sour and irritated ?
She keeps asking, why we had to get a new tv….the old one (an Avant 1st gen) worked perfectly.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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ebnrob wrote:

Millemissen wrote:

@ebnrob ‘number key presses not being relayed to joined speakers or masterlink’ Could you please explain what that means – an example would be helpfull. MM

Hi MM, this was the problem I had which is now fixed in the newest firmware v2.1.51691:

I’ve discovered that I cannot use the number pad in a link room after joining. For example, if TuneIn is playing on my M5 and I join my A9 mk4 to it, I can’t select presets using the number pad on the BR1 (BT) in the link room. This also means I can’t select the CD playing, or directly change FM radio station on my BS9000 via the NL/ML converter. I’m not sure if it’s an issue with the BR1 that’s also received a Firmware update, or the speakers.

Thanks for explaining.
I haven’t noticed anything of that kind with my Essence – maybe this is because my user behaviour is different?

I have – as of today – an M5, which I haven’t set up yet……wonder which version that will have.
Usually both devices have the same SW, or?

The firmware of all my Essences is lower than what you mention for the M5.
I wonder if the Essence will be updated too – but maybe only the M5 was affected (which is unlikely).

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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Just tried casting to one of my Essence MK2’s.

This did not work and kind of locked the Essence – it became unresponsive and showed as offline.
Before I managed to get to the power cable, it rebootet itself.

Chromecast version is 1.28.102057/sw of device is 2.1.50867.
It seems it does not support CC anymore.

Luckily I hardly ever use CC for audio, so not a big deal.
However, I have a CC Audio dongle somewhere, which I could connect to the line-in.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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