[david656]

To Lee specifically, thank you for all the hard work and I’m sorry that recent years have not been kind to you for various different reasons outside of your control.

for Beoworld generally, there is value in the older forum information that has been archived, but I do worry the world has moved on to other systems and forms of knowledge sharing and the foot fall to the forum just isn’t what it was.

It will be interesting to see how this progresses.

[david656]

Where are you based? I might be interested in the chips in it but sadly they’re a bit of a nightmare to get out.

[david656]

OK that isn’t the issue I was expecting! Have you moved the TV or put a MASSIVE magnet near it? because that is a magnetic issue that the tube usually has a degaussing wire to compensate and correct at power up.

when you turn it on do you hear like a ‘dongggg’ noise? have you tried unplugging it for a while and plugging back in (it might trigger the degauss, or set your stand to go from different on off positions as there is a degauss correction angle in the service menu of these TVs which I’m not 100% how it functions. either way it seems the degauss hasn’t worked. you can get external coils for professional use but that isn’t necessarily the answer – I wonder if a cap has blown in the degauss circuit and its now not working.

 

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[david656]

Hey,

I myself have 2 Avant 32″ (the DVD RF) and they are lovely TVs, as you’ve found out B&O do not want to help CRT owners in anyway and it is soul destroying if you really enjoy the device.

Depending on what you want to do do with the speakers you’d either have something like a beosystem 3 or 4 or an almando Multiplay Surround Switch – something like that – or perhaps a 3rd party AV receiver.

The staple answer with older electronics is replace capacitors, and my friend actually has 2 broken Avants on my list to look at, do the caps and see if they come back to life. The key worry would be if the tube has failed in some way or a chip that is essential to operation has or is failing.

I guess I would say – where are you based, how precious are you about the Avant, could you find a replacement Avant local to you? although bare in mind they are all getting older and going to eventually face various different failures. Can you perhaps post a picture of the fault?

[david656]

Hi Nick,

This is funny on a lot of levels!

I live in Yate also, but I’m currently in Hanham with my parents for reasons I’ll get to.

I see you’ve been watching eBay and Facebook Market place the same as me, that very LX2800 was on eBay in Somerset I believe, and I was looking to buy it myself before you bided and then I thought I’d leave it.

The LS5000 was from Facebook I believe in Bristol?

The 8902 I’m not sure I’ve spotted that one.

The LX2800 has a service manual luckily scanned on archive.org https://archive.org/details/manual_LX2800_BEOVISION

The LS5000 and 8902 I haven’t found anything yet.

2022 has been a difficult year for me personally, my 97 year old grandmother sadly had dementia and I’ve been caring for her and looking after her finances etc – she sadly passed in October and we had the funeral on the 1st of December so it’s been a hard year and 2023 will be hard in different ways trying to sort everything out. I’m over my parents at the moment as we don’t have a bathroom in our house anymore! I started ripping it out before my gran fell seriously ill and just haven’t had the chance to get back to it! so I’m going to be a bit tied up till February at the earliest.

If you drop me a personal message I can share my email and phone number and we can have a good chat if you like, as for cost I have no idea at this stage, but lets have a chat and go from there.

Take care,

David

[david656]

Hi Nick.

Nice couple of CRTs there.

I’m down in Bristol and have a little YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@TheRetroBristolian/videos

I’ve started dablling into CRT repair and have purchased a high voltage discharge probe, B+K Precision 470 REJUVENATOR etc with the intent of getting more seriously into it. I also have a Spyder 4 colorimeter which is used to dial in the colours and white balance perfectly. I’ve used the Spyder on a few CRTs with really amazing results, sets that were clearly too blue now have lovely 240p crisp colours on game consoles.

I have an MX7000 and an AV9000 I need to re-cap next year, the nearest guide to a recap has probably been the terminal video I did – https://youtu.be/NPvmo6zbSi0 and of course my Beolab Penta amplifier re-cap video has had some very positive feedback, now with over 7000 views: https://youtu.be/psY_RV1NjHM

I don’t claim to be an expert and I hope you find someone closer to you and perhaps with more experience than I, but perhaps if you have no luck and when I get round to doing my MX7000 it might be something you feel more comfortable/confident in talking with me about.

I’ve had a quick look on Beoworld and sadly they don’t have the service manuals for your sets listed (at a glance). Do you/have you found the service manuals? they can be quite useful when it comes to test points, setting voltages and adjusting things.

I wish you well in your quest – restoring CRT TVs is something that interests me greatly and I’d love to see more people taking the time and care to bring them back to their best and enjoying them – I personally have an Avant 32 DVD in the bedroom I watch almost daily and really enjoy.

Take care,

David

[david656]

Guy wrote:

I’ve replied! Once we have the solution we’ll post it here so that others can benefit. In the meantime (as put in my PM) I think your MX7000 is the older Type 33xx which is designed for the Beolink 1000 remote. It should be possible to do what I explained with the Mk1 AV button Beo4, but we are also hampered by the lack of a user guide for the early MX7000 – the ones available on Beoworld are for the later Type 78xx and 87xx versions designed for Beo4 operation.

Do you mean Service manual or just user guide/manual? because I have a square MX7000 manual here that says its for either the Beolink 1000 or Beolink 5000 and has a part number of 3501413 (0936)

Would that help you?

[david656]

Cool, I have GTA: Vice City and 3, any particular spots, If you take another video of both etc I can try and replicated the same scene/see if I get the same issue.

Where are you based? I have an MX7000 and MX8000 and whilst I’ve barely used the 8000 yet, its low hour and the colours are stunning!

[david656]

Which PS2 games did you try, I can compare on my MX8000, I see what you mean in the video, that’s a really weird issue.

[david656]

Yeah, not trying to scare anyone, but it is only a matter of time before screen stock drys up. I’ve purchased a new screen on Ebay and fitted, it is quite simple, the BEO4 remote always annoyed me it has that nice big screen and a single line of text in the middle, it would be quite cool if you could one day do an e-ink replacement and fill out more of the screen. 🙂

[david656]

I’ve emailed you so check your junkmail!

[david656]

Very VERY interesting! Incredible to see 2 different front face plates for the Mk1 displays! Also interesting to see the ‘big chip’ it is not the same as the MK3 I’ve checked, and I suspect that is the same as the MK2 (although I haven’t checked that yet. As I said on your Avant post, reach out directly I’d enjoy having a proper chat 🙂

Thanks,

[david656]

Hi again,

I have 2 Avant 32s and a BV3-32, my friend also has 2 Avant 32s.

We absolutely love them and another video I need to do is re-capping and the full shabang or re-calibrating one, they can be quite involved. Where are you actually based? reach out to me directly, I’d like to have a proper chat with you about all the shared interests ha.

Thanks,

[david656]

I have both BL6000 and BL3000 and Penta 2s. Whilst I have’t listened to my BL3000s for a long time now I can tell you in my opinion they sound MUCH warmer and fuller in sound. If you’re lucky good sets are still around but the display units can go weird, I need to service mine at some point.

Best or luck 🙂

[david656]

Thanks for the posts! Martin never claimed his kit covers the MK1 displays, I’m not sure why he doesn’t have a kit for those.

But that’s really good photos to see! I’ve got a MK3 screen here I’m going to do a quick vid on probably, so then we have videos of MK2 and MK3 and your photos of MK1!

It’s surprising how different those MK1 displays are in technology. I’d love to see more pictures of the overlay piece that sits in front of the segment displays.

If you can get in there, could you take a snap of the big IC chip, I’d love to know if that chip remains the same across all 3 which I ‘think’ it does.

[david656]

Damn it didn’t post my message.

 

‘lightitup’ thanks for recommending my video – it means a lot to think others are getting value from it.

I saw this thread and couldn’t resist jumping in with a display recap video to help out.

Thanks,

[david656]

I don’t even have a Beolink 5000 yet and I’d still buy one of these kits!

Outstanding job! I followed this in the old forum and am genuinely very very impressed with what you have achieved.

tentative question, what would it take to do something like this for the Beo4 – new screens are now down to NOS (New Old Stock) and will one day run out, I think the Beo4 is a corner stone of the B&O handheld controller line up and it would be a shame to not be able to fit new screens to broken models. You could perhaps even use more of the screen real estate with the source wording, add some B&O style icons for the inputs perhaps?

Either way, thanks again for this amazing contribution to the community

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