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  • #33341
    Tignum
    GOLD Member
      • Netherlands

      That BeoGram looks superb Leosgonewild!

      #33342
      Evan
      GOLD Member
        • San Francisco

        Looking forward to seeing/reading some more on this project.

        Hey Pepps – I’ll write up a thread on it in a little while (have many more photos). I’m in the home stretch and just might finish it this weekend!

        However I will tease one thing… Yesterday I did embark on the re-foaming of the midrange drivers. Mission was successful.

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        #33343
        Evan
        GOLD Member
          • San Francisco

          Last night was a late one with sparse meetings which means doing conference calls from the workbench in the garage. In between some of them I designed a new table stand last night to hold a BeoLab 4000 horizontally. Should be done printing when I get home.

          If it fits / works well I’ll make the design available if anyone is interested.

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          #33344
          Tignum
          GOLD Member
            • Netherlands

            Looks cool Evan! Will you make use of the ribbed backside of the BL4000s so the position angle can be varied (or will it rely on gravity and friction).

            Johan

            #33345
            Evan
            GOLD Member
              • San Francisco

              Thanks, Johan! I’m very pleased that it worked on the first iteration. It does indeed have a groove that fits between two of the heatsink fins. It gives a bit of flexibility to the angle. The only thing I might change is its overall angle, I think its too far laid on its back as the on-axis high frequency is reduced quite a bit compared to it standing up vertically as I had before. At any rate, it fits and works great. Check it out:

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              #33346
              kirin
              BRONZE Member

                That is a great constructional work, good looking as well!

                #33347
                Evan
                GOLD Member
                  • San Francisco

                  Cheers, Kirin! Thank you very much.

                  For anyone interested in printing their own, I have made the design available HERE.

                  When I have the time I’ll make another design available where it is more upright with the speakers that are more on-axis.

                  #33348
                  fkatze
                  BRONZE Member

                    Well it took a while to get back to it…

                    Here is the tuner board installed in the BM2000:

                    IMG-20230319-103506-01-02

                    I had to replace the string as the original had broken, and that was a bit of a nightmare as I’d not done it before.  I needed to have quite a lot of tension for the indicator to keep moving, and I’m not sure if it is too much tension, but at least it runs smoothly now from end to end.

                    It has been around 3 years or so since I started this project, with C19 related things keeping me out the country, but it just about done.  Refit of some lamps, resolder another, and fix a couple of the preset tuning dials, and it should be done.  I have a plan to fit a bluetooth receiver module and hook it into one of the tape inputs, but that will have to wait. as I will probably head home in a few weeks.

                    #33349
                    fkatze
                    BRONZE Member

                      Hooked it all up and…it works, mostly.  No FM stereo, tuning lights, and stereo lights don’t come on.  Though it does find stations in roughly the right places.  For the moment though, it’s progress.

                      #33350
                      BeoZip
                      BRONZE Member

                        Cheers, Kirin! Thank you very much. For anyone interested in printing their own, I have made the design available HERE. When I have the time I’ll make another design available where it is more upright with the speakers that are more on-axis.

                        I like your design, idea and the creativity. Very nice.

                        But less is more …. so is B&O thinking and had create his own horizontally tablestand. This is very flexible. Do you know this stand?

                        #33351
                        Evan
                        GOLD Member
                          • San Francisco

                          But less is more …. so is B&O thinking and had create his own horizontally tablestand. This is very flexible. Do you know this stand?

                           

                          Yes, I knew this stand was out there. I don’t really like the look of the bent wire and didn’t feel like hunting it down.

                          I enjoy designing things and I’m addicted to 3D printing so it was easy for me to do. Its good to flex the creative muscles every now and then.

                          Edit: Just checked the analytics and a whopping 7 people have downloaded it so far. Modest take rate but I’m glad a few people out there liked it enough to download 🙂

                          #33352
                          Glitch
                          BRONZE Member

                            BM4000

                            I just finished a refresh of this Beomaster 4000. This receiver was a good example of why one shouldn’t just grab a spray can of “contact cleaner/lubricant” and spray indeterminately to fix a noisy potentiometer or switch. Whatever product the previous owner used seeped everywhere inside the receiver then turned into a hard waxy substance. Fortunately, I was able to fully disassemble the receiver and clean the “gunk” out of the chassis, sliders and switches.

                            My plan for the receiver is to pair it with four Braun speakers from the same era. Braun speakers are actually somewhat rare in the US. I like to assemble systems with a theme. This will be my “70’s Euro-system”. I’m guessing that most of the forum members would just call it a “70’s system”   😉

                            I’m looking forward to experiencing the Ambiophonic feature. Does anyone have suggestions for era-appropriate recordings that highlight this feature?

                            Glitch

                            #33353
                            quattttro
                            BRONZE Member

                              Finishing up my 6000. Seems to have endless problems, but I’m nearly done now (i hope).

                               

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                              #33354
                              jesnystrup@gmail.com
                              BRONZE Member

                                I’m back in the US for a little while so I’m trying to sort out one of my other previous acquisitions, BL Penta MK2. They need the full overhaul so I bought all 3 cap kits and new foam surrounds. These will be the main L/R channels in the master bedroom and the basis of a surround system (eventually!). IMG-9978

                                Looking forward to seeing/reading some more on this project.

                                Thats ALOT of work ..Let us know how it went

                                Jess

                                #33355
                                Motorman
                                BRONZE Member

                                  Yesterday I got a Beogram CD5500 for 10€ + shipping. Someone took it appart and damaged it terribly. (I think “slaughtered” is a better word) It came with 2 CDM4 drives.

                                  The white case and the front still look very good, so it’s probably worth working on.

                                  In the meantime, it is already playing with one of the two drives again.

                                  After replacing the usual C2103 on the drive PCB, the left channel was back. After a bit of measuring I found out that the resistor R126 which is connected between the right OP amp and its -15V supply was defect. Now after the exchange it plays nicely on both channels again. Now I “only” have to clean up the damage that was done before. To do this, I first need Martin’s rubber mountings for the drive. (They were cut through). Fortunately, all the other parts seem to be there and I have a CD7000 where I can see how everything belongs together.
                                  There were two drives. One CDM4/11 that works and one CDM/4/13 that doesn’t work and has a broken mounting hole.
                                  Does anyone happen to know which of the drives originally belongs in this player?

                                   

                                  #33356
                                  Evan
                                  GOLD Member
                                    • San Francisco

                                    I’m back in the US for a little while so I’m trying to sort out one of my other previous acquisitions, BL Penta MK2. They need the full overhaul so I bought all 3 cap kits and new foam surrounds. These will be the main L/R channels in the master bedroom and the basis of a surround system (eventually!). IMG-9978

                                    Looking forward to seeing/reading some more on this project.

                                    Thats ALOT of work ..Let us know how it went Jess

                                    Hey Jess – it definitely was a lot of work and still is! The project lives on when I have time for it.

                                    You can find the full write up here: Evan’s MK2 BeoLab Pentas

                                    #33357
                                    Evan
                                    GOLD Member
                                      • San Francisco

                                      BM4000 I just finished a refresh of this Beomaster 4000. This receiver was a good example of why one shouldn’t just grab a spray can of “contact cleaner/lubricant” and spray indeterminately to fix a noisy potentiometer or switch. Whatever product the previous owner used seeped everywhere inside the receiver then turned into a hard waxy substance. Fortunately, I was able to fully disassemble the receiver and clean the “gunk” out of the chassis, sliders and switches. My plan for the receiver is to pair it with four Braun speakers from the same era. Braun speakers are actually somewhat rare in the US. I like to assemble systems with a theme. This will be my “70’s Euro-system”. I’m guessing that most of the forum members would just call it a “70’s system” ? I’m looking forward to experiencing the Ambiophonic feature. Does anyone have suggestions for era-appropriate recordings that highlight this feature? Glitch

                                      Nice work. Really clean 4k you have there! I can’t wait to work through my BM4k. I have a BG4002 with CD4 built in and can’t wait to get the duo playing together one day.

                                      #33358
                                      Glitch
                                      BRONZE Member

                                        Nice work. Really clean 4k you have there! I can’t wait to work through my BM4k. I have a BG4002 with CD4 built in and can’t wait to get the duo playing together one day.

                                        Thanks! Don’t forget to post pictures when you get your duo working. I hope someday to have the same combo but am still waiting for the right turntable to come along.

                                        Glitch

                                        #33359
                                        Motorman
                                        BRONZE Member

                                          You can find the full write up here: Evan’s MK2 BeoLab Pentas

                                          Thanks! This will help me with my Penta MKIII.
                                          I will start with the amplifiers over Easter. There is my wife with the children at the in-laws and I can block the dining table with the speakers in peace.

                                          I got the service kit from Martin for this.

                                          The sourrounds of the midrange drivers are currently still OK, so I will take care of it at a later date.

                                          I’m still undecided what to do with the crossovers. Just take the service kit from Martin or maybe do the improvements suggested by Die.Bogener? What do you think?

                                          #33360
                                          Glitch
                                          BRONZE Member

                                            I’m still undecided what to do with the crossovers. Just take the service kit from Martin or maybe do the improvements suggested by Die.Bogener? What do you think?

                                            You might want to measure your existing capacitors and go from there. The caps that came out of my Pentas measured very well. I had some caps (leftover from another project) that I swapped in as an experiment and I couldn’t tell any difference.

                                            I subscribe to the theory that the majority of improvement that comes from recapping crossovers comes from having better matched components. This is in contrast to those that believe that one capacitor sounds better than another. Speakers with well matched crossovers image better than those with mismatched ones. IMHO, this is easier to notice than a minor change in frequency response.

                                            You might want to consider measuring, sorting, and repositioning the mid-ranges. This in in the spirit of having better matched speakers. Doing this noticeably improved my Pentas.

                                            Glitch

                                             

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