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  • #566
    Rick74
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      It looks like the successor to the Beosound Core has arrived:
      https://www.bang-olufsen.com/en/int/accessories/beoconnect-core

      #15945
      OlivierC
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        Finally! 😀

        So many questions.

        What’s doing more / differently compared to the BS Core, other than being based on Mozart platform instead of ASE?

        The site states that’s the bridge between legacy and current products but it is not clear as it’s referring to turntables and speakers, not music systems.
        Would it avoid the need of intermediate converters?

        What about controlling a non-B&O / non-LG tv set with BR1?
        Would it work for volume control only or more?
        I presume it is supporting stereo sound only.
        It would mean e.g. a pair of BL18 but what if a BL19 is added to the mix?

        Is there an improved DAC compared to BS Core?

        Olivier

        #17737
        OlivierC
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          Finally! 😀

          So many questions.

          What’s doing more / differently compared to the BS Core, other than being based on Mozart platform instead of ASE?

          The site states that’s the bridge between legacy and current products but it is not clear as it’s referring to turntables and speakers, not music systems.
          Would it avoid the need of intermediate converters?

          What about controlling a non-B&O / non-LG tv set with BR1?
          Would it work for volume control only or more?
          I presume it is supporting stereo sound only.
          It would mean e.g. a pair of BL18 but what if a BL19 is added to the mix?

          Is there an improved DAC compared to BS Core?

          Olivier

          #15944
          DT79
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            This could be what I’ve been waiting for, but all those questions definitely need to be answered! It’s hard to believe it ought to cost £1k, but I’m not surprised.

             

            #15925
            Sandyb
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              Yep, no processing (from a TV) of anything more than plain old 2.0.

              Wasn’t expecting much more, but shame it doesnt do some surround processing nor have WISA to allow connecting more than one pair of BL’s.

               

              #17732
              Millemissen
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                Oh no!

                A (Mozart) Core with a HDMI/eARC connection.

                With only 2 channels support 🤔
                Where did the most important speaker for tv viewing – the center – go?
                Not that I expected TrueImage processing built-in – but this really is too ordinary.

                And the CEC support – will that bring control of the tv/the connected AppleTV….
                ….as Mbee asks?
                Or is the future two remotes on the table?
                Only a visit in a B&O store can clarify that…I guess.

                P.S.
                I’ll stick to my trusted Essence MK2 boxes for 2 channel music/radio listening and my Theatre for tv/movie watching with great multichannel sound.

                MM

                #15899
                matteventu
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                  Disappointed that it doesn’t have WiSA transmitter built-in, given the price (£999 / $1150). And that there’s no surround support – it would have been nice given the addition of HDMI ARC.

                  But what disappoints me the most… No optical or aux output whatsoever.

                  #15898
                  beojeff
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                    I do think that B&O is going a little overboard in hyping it as a solution for a home theater. It’s certainly no Beosound Theatre. Still, the added HDMI connectivity is a nice feature for the slight price increase. For me, I could see it as a solution for a non-B&O small tv that I have in the kitchen. I currently have it connected to a Beosystem 3 for connection to 2 Beolab 4000 speakers and an Apple TV. That’s then connected to an NL/ML converter to integrate with the rest of my B&O. This small box could replace all of that and allow control via CEC of an Apple TV connected directly to the non-B&O tv. It has its place for a simple setup solution.

                    #17722
                    beojeff
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                      I do think that B&O is going a little overboard in hyping it as a solution for a home theater. It’s certainly no Beosound Theatre. Still, the added HDMI connectivity is a nice feature for the slight price increase. For me, I could see it as a solution for a non-B&O small tv that I have in the kitchen. I currently have it connected to a Beosystem 3 for connection to 2 Beolab 4000 speakers and an Apple TV. That’s then connected to an NL/ML converter to integrate with the rest of my B&O. This small box could replace all of that and allow control via CEC of an Apple TV connected directly to the non-B&O tv. It has its place for a simple setup solution.

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                      Millemissen
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                        But what disappoints me the most… No optical or aux output whatsoever.

                        It has USB Audio out….which is digital.

                        MM

                        #17720
                        Millemissen
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                          But what disappoints me the most… No optical or aux output whatsoever.

                          It has USB Audio out….which is digital.

                          MM

                          #15879
                          Millemissen
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                            I do think that B&O is going a little overboard in hyping it as a solution for a home theater. It’s certainly no Beosound Theatre. Still, the added HDMI connectivity is a nice feature for the slight price increase. For me, I could see it as a solution for a non-B&O small tv that I have in the kitchen. I currently have it connected to a Beosystem 3 for connection to 2 Beolab 4000 speakers and an Apple TV. That’s then connected to an NL/ML converter to integrate with the rest of my B&O. This small box could replace all of that and allow control via CEC of an Apple TV connected directly to the non-B&O tv. It has its place for a simple setup solution.

                            As you might have noticed, I am an advocate for a center channel with a tv.
                            Having only L and R speakers corrupts the sound image, when you are off axis….when you are more people than ‘the one guy without friends’ sitting in the money seat.
                            If I were to use it with a tv, I would get the BL7.x, which would be more suitable with a screen (and also is a good speaker for music in a kitchen).

                            The ability to use the BROne for controlling the tv/AppleTV (CEC) still has to be proven!

                            MM

                            #17719
                            Millemissen
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                              I do think that B&O is going a little overboard in hyping it as a solution for a home theater. It’s certainly no Beosound Theatre. Still, the added HDMI connectivity is a nice feature for the slight price increase. For me, I could see it as a solution for a non-B&O small tv that I have in the kitchen. I currently have it connected to a Beosystem 3 for connection to 2 Beolab 4000 speakers and an Apple TV. That’s then connected to an NL/ML converter to integrate with the rest of my B&O. This small box could replace all of that and allow control via CEC of an Apple TV connected directly to the non-B&O tv. It has its place for a simple setup solution.

                              As you might have noticed, I am an advocate for a center channel with a tv.
                              Having only L and R speakers corrupts the sound image, when you are off axis….when you are more people than ‘the one guy without friends’ sitting in the money seat.
                              If I were to use it with a tv, I would get the BL7.x, which would be more suitable with a screen (and also is a good speaker for music in a kitchen).

                              The ability to use the BROne for controlling the tv/AppleTV (CEC) still has to be proven!

                              MM

                              #15878
                              DT79
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                                Yep, after looking more closely at the spec this appears to be a real missed opportunity. If it has HDMI ARC and costs £1k then why no multi-channel,  why no WiSA and why oh why always so stingy with the inputs. Also it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that they could have implemented their active room correction in such a device as well.

                                Oh no! A (Mozart) Core with a HDMI/eARC connection. With only 2 channels support 🤔 Where did the most important speaker for tv viewing – the center – go? Not that I expected TrueImage processing built-in – but this really is too ordinary. And the CEC support – will that bring control of the tv/the connected AppleTV…. ….as Mbee asks? Or is the future two remotes on the table? Only a visit in a B&O store can clarify that…I guess. P.S. I’ll stick to my trusted Essence MK2 boxes for 2 channel music/radio listening and my Theatre for tv/movie watching with great multichannel sound. MM

                                #17718
                                DT79
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                                  Yep, after looking more closely at the spec this appears to be a real missed opportunity. If it has HDMI ARC and costs £1k then why no multi-channel,  why no WiSA and why oh why always so stingy with the inputs. Also it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that they could have implemented their active room correction in such a device as well.

                                  Oh no! A (Mozart) Core with a HDMI/eARC connection. With only 2 channels support 🤔 Where did the most important speaker for tv viewing – the center – go? Not that I expected TrueImage processing built-in – but this really is too ordinary. And the CEC support – will that bring control of the tv/the connected AppleTV…. ….as Mbee asks? Or is the future two remotes on the table? Only a visit in a B&O store can clarify that…I guess. P.S. I’ll stick to my trusted Essence MK2 boxes for 2 channel music/radio listening and my Theatre for tv/movie watching with great multichannel sound. MM

                                  #15877
                                  beojeff
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                                    I suspect that the tv’s internal speaker could be used for the center channel. Such a speaker could hardly keep up with the quality of beolabs, though.

                                    At least we have 3 levels of options: Core, Stage, and Theatre to fit our needs. It would now be nice to see some improvements to the Stage.

                                    #17717
                                    beojeff
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                                      I suspect that the tv’s internal speaker could be used for the center channel. Such a speaker could hardly keep up with the quality of beolabs, though.

                                      At least we have 3 levels of options: Core, Stage, and Theatre to fit our needs. It would now be nice to see some improvements to the Stage.

                                      #15876
                                      DT79
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                                        I just think there’s an obvious opportunity for a device for people who already have a TV and multi-channel Beolab speakers. And possibly more than one other audio source.

                                        I suspect that the tv’s internal speaker could be used for the center channel. Such a speaker could hardly keep up with the quality of beolabs, though. At least we have 3 levels of options: Core, Stage, and Theatre to fit our needs. It would now be nice to see some improvements to the Stage.

                                        #17716
                                        DT79
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                                          I just think there’s an obvious opportunity for a device for people who already have a TV and multi-channel Beolab speakers. And possibly more than one other audio source.

                                          I suspect that the tv’s internal speaker could be used for the center channel. Such a speaker could hardly keep up with the quality of beolabs, though. At least we have 3 levels of options: Core, Stage, and Theatre to fit our needs. It would now be nice to see some improvements to the Stage.

                                          #15873
                                          beojeff
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                                            Indeed. Yet, look at the price point compared to the Beosystem 3 and Beosystem 4.
                                            I just think there’s an obvious opportunity for a device for people who already have a TV and multi-channel Beolab speakers. And possibly more than one other audio source.

                                            I suspect that the tv’s internal speaker could be used for the center channel. Such a speaker could hardly keep up with the quality of beolabs, though. At least we have 3 levels of options: Core, Stage, and Theatre to fit our needs. It would now be nice to see some improvements to the Stage.

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