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[Millemis]

There should be multiple solutions to this.

If you want an external streamer (to be used with an app on phone/tablet), you could use the line-in/optical on the Eclipse. Just connect the output of the streamer there.
If you want to try that out, go for e.g. a WiiM Mini (these devices have good reputations).
The small box can easily be hidden away. You can even create a seperate Speaker Group for that input….in case you have external speakers connected to the tv.

If the 1st Generation BeoVision Eclipse still supports Casting, you could just (chrome)cast from the Qobuz app on your device.

The Qobuz app should be available for download to the tv (?).
In case this is not supported on the 1st Generation BeoVision Eclipse, you could add a GoogleTV streamer via HDMI…..I am pretty sure you can find the Qobuz app in the Google app store for that.

In case you lean more towards Apple solutions, you could add an AppleTV box – there is a Qobuz app for that.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

[Eric Stone]

Just wanted to follow up on this topic for future reference.

I was never able to resolve the speaker group issue on the eclipse.  B&O could not help.

I ended up purchasing a beoconnect core and transmitter 1.  Unfortunately, this setup does not produce the same audio quality as the eclipse being the source.  The bass and me the 28s becomes (as best as I can describe it) empty, as if it initially punches but doesn’t follow through.  The filters seems to do little, bass management nothing, and no other settings configuration seems to address the issue.

so sad 🙁

[blake.ferguson]

Hello BeoWorld,

Wondering if there are any recommendations out there for a Music Streamer which is Qobuz compatible and can be connected to a 1st Generation BeoVision Eclipse?

All recommendations and stereo diagram setups welcome!

[SimonWeir]

Please may I offer a curve ball for consideration…

I have a Theatre with 4 sets of BeoLab 17 and a BeoLab 19, there is real merit in matching speakers and building a full 7.1.4 system as more and more TV programmes and films now have an Atmos soundtrack, along with more music being available in an Atmos format.

I consult for a B&O store and calibrate their in store and customer systems.  You may want to consider instead of a BeoLab 28, you buy two sets of BeoLab 8, trade in your BeoLab 18 and keep your BeoLab 19.  There is no match to having a BeoLab 19 in your system unless you have 50s or 90s… it is a must keep.  The punch and rumble of a BeoLab 19 is unmatched; and using the Theatre to redirect the bass around all system is a significant step up than when connected to a Harmony, Eclipse or Avant (I have had them all).

BeoLab 8 have a frequency range almost identical to BeoLab 28, and better bass capability than BeoLab 18.

With two sets of BeoLab 8s  you have the flexibility to use as Fronts, Surrounds or Backs, or even heights.  You can also buy more sets be that new, demos or in years to come 2nd hand.

The BeoLab 8 drivers are a closer match in physical size and their sonic output to the front speakers in the Theatre than your BeoLab 18, which when you dial in the distances, db levels and redirection levels make for a more uniformed sound bubble, meaning wherever you sit the greater consistency in what you hear.

Lastly I setup the Theatre for TV & Movie as the default, using where available as many speakers for the listening position including the virtual option to always have 7.1.4, and then toggle between the Sound profiles of Speech, Movie or Music this works wonderfully for whatever I am wanting to do… casual TV, a bit of music or a film, but when I am just in the mood for music on my own I use a 2.1 listening position 1 set of BeoLab 17 with the BeoLab 19 no Theatre speakers with the redirection set at -4 on the BeoLab 17 and 0 on the BeoLab 19.  If you want to tweak Atmos further copy the BeoSonic Movie sound profile (6, 7, 5, 5) in the App but switch TrueImage for Direct and call this Atmos Movie, I find for Atmos, if you have the physical speakers this edges it over TrueImage in purity of where the effects are coming from.

[Rolf2]

Together with my wall mounted Eclipse 65 I am using a pair of BL 18 (same as Severed_hand_of_skywalker in his great setup). I cannot compare to a pair of BL 28 and what you like is mostly related to your hearing habits. Personally, I do not like it too much, when the bass in a movie shakes my furniture. Having used my combo until recently without a sub as well, I agree that I do not miss any bass listening to movies or music.

Out of curiosity I added a S8. This should be power wise a close match to the BL 19. It is also a downfiring sub and I have a wooden floor, having had no complaints about it when in use. I rarely use it, because the bass of the BL 18 usually is completely satisfying for me.

When checking the sound, I use the same songs with the different speaker set ups. E. g. you can compare the treble really well when listening to the first tunes of Pink Floyd’s „High Hopes (Early Version 1994)“. For bass there are many choices, a good one for me is Freya Ridings „Lost without you“. In between 1:25 and 1:30 a deep bass sets in. For a movie I would take e. g. Transformers sequels.

Whatever your decision will be, have fun and enjoy!

Kind regards

Rolf

Location: Germany

Favourite Product: BeoSystem 4500

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[Iceman23]

Thanks for the response.

You have an incredible setup! I currently have the Eclipse so that will act as my centre speaker (pales in comparison to the Theatre but hopefully one day I will upagrade).

So I have engineered wooden oak flooring so that maybe an issue it seems? Surely if you wall mount the 28s, the subwoofer will be firing against the walls? Well, I think I have breeze blocks and plasterboards so isn’t as hard as concrete?

 

 

[patcherley]

Just been updated to Webos TV 23, took a couple of restarts to get everything sorted but all ok now. Originally was only getting sound via HDMI from the Sound center but the second restart fixed that

[carolpa]

Eric Stone wrote:

Thank you for sharing, I think the difference between the 18s and 28s could lie within the stereo pairing. I feel the 18s may be paired via your theatre whereas the 28s pair themselves. Maybe I can break the pairing and force the eclipse to view them individually.

I’m under the impression it is a sound-setup “issue” in the Eclipse. The Eclipse will find the bass capabillities of the BL28 superior to the BL19. So the bass will be re-directed to the BL28. Somewhere in the sound settings this can be changed.

And no, no need to break the pairing. As long the BL28 are connected to the Eclipse the PL/WISA connection, these connections are in favour over the paired BL28’s.

[Eric Stone]

Thank you for sharing, I think the difference between the 18s and 28s could lie within the stereo pairing.  I feel the 18s may be paired via your theatre whereas the 28s pair themselves.  Maybe I can break the pairing and force the eclipse to view them individually.

[B&O Orlando]

I don’t have an Eclipse to test this with, but I know that with my Theatre system, I have a speaker group that is comprised of a pair of BL18s and one BL19 – completely excluding the Theatre bar. However, things may be different with Eclipse

Location: Winter Park, FL

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[Eric Stone]

Hi All,

so after giving in and spending more money than I would have ever wanted to make the 19 work, I have found something interesting.  The 19 works only if the speaker group includes the sound center speakers.  If they are deactivated in a new pair, the 19 does not work.

this makes no sense as the signal is still going to the eclipse.  Am I missing something, is or did bang and Olufsen really not think this through? Simple logic would suggest that if it works with them included, the sound center can carry out the same function without the sound center speakers on.  I have put in a request for this to be reviewed and asked they come out with a software update to solve what would appear to be a very simple problem.

thanks!

 

ps, the 28s can absolutely benefit from the 19.  I got it for rap music, but you can even notice the improvement in classical or any other genre in my opinion.

[YannChris]

Hi Sanjeev,

Good guess:

The main reason for my choice is the higher flexibility of the Theatre in terms of screen swapping.

Second reason is the more modern sound processor.

My doubts about EOL of Harmony were not justified at the time of my choice, as it’s still on sale.

But I recently recieved an offer for Eclipse Trade-in for the purchase of an Harmony. So today I would have the same doubts.

For the time being, 15 months after delivery, I’m very satisfied with my new TV.

Kind regards,

Yann.

Location: Brittany, France

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[B&O Orlando]

I don’t have experience with the Eclipse, but if its anything like the newer TVs, if you unplug the 18s it will still function. HOWEVER – it will continue to send L/R audio to the 18s so you will no longer hear those channels. You’ll need to change the config in the Eclipse to send L/R to the built in speakers instead.

Slide the covers UP and then pull away. You need to remove the cover first to disconnect the cables.

There is a notched nut on the bottom of the wall mount. It comes with a special tool for removal, but it can probably be done with some small needle nose pliers (carefully!). Remove the nut and lock washer and lift the speaker out of the mount.

Procedure for mounting the speaker on the wall is up to you, but I would make sure they are mounted into wood (ideally studs) with some decent screws or lags. All of the weight is sent to the bottom, that’s a lot of leverage.

Backing for sound quality shouldn’t be a big deal, they are ported out of the front. Just make sure they are safely mounted.

Location: Winter Park, FL

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[Timothy Quek]

Hi all,

Background:
Found seller for BL18/19 but its connected to his wider B&O system. He wants to ensure post disconnection the rest of his system (Eclipse/Celestial/think i saw a core look alike) continues to function fine.

I am contemplating either getting B&O to help with the disconnection/reinstallation but they quoted me $500. Wanted to explore if i could do this myself.

I’ve been scouring the BL18’s manual/web/youtube for advise but discussions relating to wall mounted BL18’s are thin. The manual being vague does not help either. Appreciate if anyone can provide advise on this front.

Questions

• Would it be as simple as plugging out the wires and the rest of his system would continue to function?
• What tools do i need to bring along for the dismantling of wall bracket? (eg: Screw drivers)
• How do i dismantle? My guess based on the manual is remove the front lamella to expose wire connection into BL18, remove wires, lift the beolab18 out and place on a soft sheet, unscrew the wallmount, remove wires from hub. – wondering if this correct?
• From the perspective of sound quality, is it recommended for the wall backing to be concrete? Or would a reinforced partition board be fine?

 

Regards,

Tim

[christoffer.betzer]

Is there a solution where I can connect my PlayStation 5 to my BeoVision Eclipse and control it with my BeoRemote One?

[Robert]

STB Brackets have a solution for upgrading the Eclipse MKI to LG C2, C3, and C4:) They have removed it from the shop for now – they write that they are working on a better upgrade together with B&O for the MKI. Good news!

https://www.stbbrackets.co.uk/product/beovision-eclipse-lg-c4-upgrade-adapter/

[Mbee]

Hi,

I had the exact same issue with my Eclipse MKI (which is basically the same product) : once the EEPROM board (a daughterboard connected to the Eclipse Motherboard) has been replaced, no issue anymore.

The replacement including labour was about 60o€ (for an Eclipse, I hope it’s less on a Stage)

[London Joe]

Hello all,

I’ve been away from the forum for a number of years (working abroad) and have recently returned.

My beovision 9 seems to be experiencing a few bugs such as the camera which adjusts the colours not working so suspect it’s on the way out. In anticipation I’m looking for advice on replacing with a second hand B&O set. The beovision is currently connected to a Beosound 9000, Beolab 9’s, Beolab 2 and Beolab 8000’s. The replacement would need to be able to connect and work with this B&O set up.

The budget is probably around £3k.  I’ve searched the forum and have seen that the avant suffers from screen issues and the eclipse generation 1 also has screen anomalies. Any advice greatly appreciated.

[SimonWeir]

Curly wrote:

“I sometimes think having a 5.0 system of Theater + 4x BL17 would be plenty and spectacular.”

Well I have gone further and have a Theatre, 8 x BL17s on WiSA and a BL19 wired, for the full 7.1.4 setup, with the Theatre only pumping out FL, Centre, and FR.  The BL17s cover SL, SR, BL, BR, LFH, RFH, LSH, RSH.

Redirection set on the App:  BL17s all at -9, FL & FR at -24, Centre -6, and BL19 no redirection.  Minimal extra tweaking on db level to get all set to match the Centre at 65 db using first the supplied B&O mic but then supplemented with a laser measure and sound pressure level meter to improve the accuracy further.

Just sounds great.  It makes me smile every time I turn on.  I find reasons to stay in for a movie (I do have and advocate 4K UHD Blu-ray for those special events actual disc trounces streaming there is so much more detail and depth… I have a Panasonic 820 HDMI into the LG so only time cannot use PUC as that’s for Apple TV and Sky Q).  Even better is late at night with the screen turned off listen to my favourite playlist.

I can now stop tweaking and adding more BL17s… started with 1 pair and a BL19 sub with my Avant55 for 5.1; got another set when I moved to the Eclipse 55” Gen1 for 7.1; then another set with moved to Eclipse 55” Gen2, for 7.1.2; and finally changed TV for a 4th time in 10 years to a Theatre 65” LG G2 (but changed 6 months later to a G3 panel) and added my 4th set of BL17s to finally have the full 7.1.4

I am a fan boy of the BL17s.  I am also a fan boy of matching surround speakers with the Theatre.  I recently heard a setup with BL28 and BL18 with a Theatre, admittedly no sub and it was not as balanced as mine… no real hearing of the up firing or surround firing speakers off the Theatre, even after we tweaked to all match to same db.  It proved to me if you do want the full Atmos impact / experience for Movie & Music (I use a Apple 4K latest box hdmi into the Theatre on PUC) most films of Netflix, Prime, Disney, Apple and music through Apple Music are now in Atmos and appreciate actual height speakers, and the BL17s are perfect and 2nd hand a bargain… let people swap for BL8s and fan boys pick up bargains!

Pound for pound… when they launched and now, most versatile speakers in the last 20 years… plus I stand by better sounding than the BL18s… who needs the wood, I listen to, I don’t look at my speakers.

[Toma48]

Hi buddy , spoke to you a while back about eclipse mk1 you got working with different panel you got working , I’m having a hell of a time trying to sync a G4 to my mk1 eclipse . At first it sort of worked as on sound passed thew of but down loading that app didn’t turn it into a b and o tv . I still had to come out the app and on to lg home menus to go into Amazon apple and so . Is this how yours works or have I not don’t it properly . Cheers Thomas