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I’d suggest you (if you havent already) speak to an installer, tell him what use case scenarios you want, and he’ll advise on the cabling etc necessary.
When I had my apartment ripped out and re-done, my B&O dealer came round in advance, and he advised me / drew up a cable map. Included some additional cables for future possible usage.
The only other thing I’d do in your case is to have a chat / sanity check with Steve (of Sounds Heavenly), especially with respect to connecting (non-B&O) TVs to BL9s or BL5s (I’m assuming you have non-B&O Tvs).
they both have loads of connectivity options wirelessly – both include Spotify yes.
Both seemingly have pretty good apps of their own, through which you should see your NAS music.
The only thing you may want to research / check beforehand is how well they handle very large NAS libraries – as yours seems to be. Roon (with a Roon server setup somewhere in the house, doesn’t matter where) is superb with massive libraries, but you may not want to go down that route.
Generally though, you’ve got pretty damn good reasonably priced options like the Blusound and Wiim (and others) – and both with good control UIs.
I ditched my Moment years ago, and have 3rd party hardware feeding my B&O speakers (I use Roon as a control UI), and its perfect – B&O, when it comes to control UIs, dont cater well for NAS stored music, so you’re right to look elsewhere for that part.
Connecting Beolab 9 to TV and Turntable
byu/MrRichardSmoker626 inBangandOlufsenA Blusound Node for each room – one connected to the BL9, one connected to the BL5.
BluOS is pretty well regarded, and can pick up your NAS music.
The Moment is not a good solution, nor a good product – I had one for a couple of years and got rid of it.
Indeed, I would just read the Technical Sound Guide, it helps give a better understanding.
With respect to wide / narrow mode – the TSG does mention that for 50/90s, put the speaker in the preferred preset (part of which is wide / narrow) before doing the mic based setup with the Theatre.
“you should ensure that the Beolab 50s or Beolab 90s are in the appropriate Preset before running the automatic setup measurement on the Theatre.”
Whether that applies to the BL28s, I dont know.
Question about this suggestion: Set the external loudspeakers to Left- and Right-Front Set the centre output on the television to Centre Front Set the Left and Right internal outputs of the television to Left- and Right-Surround when calibrating the theatre with multiple speakers some speaker roles (and I believe woofers) are left out. Does the theatre still use these woofers for other channels or not? The side firing are left out most. I could imagine the sides supporting a surround or even back speaker roll and keep the BL28 behind the sofa as surrounds for most effect/usage. With the added BL8’s should the L and R woofer group of 3 be left as L/R channels with added 8’s further out in line with BST or all configured as centre? BST gives a master control and balanced calibration but the assignment ment of channels is a bit unclear when having built in and external speakers competing the same position they are built for regards
For any of the individual speaker / drivers in the Theatre NOT given an assigned role, then yes they will be inactive.
With BL8s added as front L/R, then if you run the mic calibration then yes the Theatre SW will not assign any of its own drivers as front L/R as well. You can of course manually re-assign individual Theatre drivers as additional front L/R’s, though I dont really see the point.
Might be worth reading the BST Technical Sound Guide – its helpful understanding what is going on. But big picture, when you run the mic calibration, if the Theatre senses specific external speakers / assigns them a role (for example front l/r), then it won’t double up that role with any of the sound bars own internal drivers.
As for your suggestion at the start of your post, not sure I understand it properly – as it seems to be talking about the televisions own speaker / outputs, i.e not using the Theatre. So maybe worth clarifying /rephrasing your suggestion / question.
2. Roon / Core – Yes the Core will show up as both a Chromecast endpoint and Airplay endpoint. Enable either or both in the Roon settings.
3. Volume control – yes the B&O app has volume control for the Core. You can also use the Beoremote 1, though thats predominately a Tv remote, so might be overkill if you don’t have B&O tv. But both options are available.
4. no comment on this – high quality means many different things to different people.
6. Yes.
8. There will doubtless be alternatives. But if you use case / demands are straightforward, the Core is quite a neat solution. Non-straightforward demands being things such as having a Roon Ready endpoint as opposed to a (Roon visible) but only Airplay / CC endpoint. Or a streamer with native Tidal Connect, etc etc. Or something with a very high end DAC on board.
But for perfectly fine streaming, a bridge for your turntable, and ability to connect and setup/control 18s+19, the Core is a neat solution.
Personally I’d say one of the high end streamer/DAC units would be somewhat wasted / unnecessary for speakers like the 18s. (I had 18s and a 19 for 7 years)
I updated, and can’t see a single meaningful or noticeable difference to the previous version to be honest.
It seems to have subtly changed in 5.4.1 – tap the 3 dots still, but then you need to tap Sources (previously called Source Startup behaviour), and you can Edit and re-order there.
The option to tap Beoremote, select a paired remote, and chose “Remote List” has gone.
But no big deal, you can do all the same (with 5.4.1) under Sources, and any changes are reflected more or less immediately on your BR1.
Select the Theatre from the product main screen.
Click the 3 dots, top right corner to access settings.
Select Sources (if you are on the beta) – its called Source Startup Behaviour in the non-beta I think.
You can Edit the list there – including dragging items up and down, i.e to re-order the list. This is what is reflected / shown on your BR1.
As for the source list under the Now Playing app screen (black screen) – thats a moving beast, and whether the non-beta or the new beta version, there are no separate options to customise the list that shows there.
Guessing you are not a Theatre owner? (forgive me if I am wrong)
All the settings are done through the app, nothing on the TV itself.
So within the app, once you have paired a BR1 to your Theatre, the separate settings section on Sources allows you to pick and order your Remote List – both under the BR1 TV and Music buttons. It then syncs to the physical BR1, and works well, with changes made in the app reflected quickly on the handheld remote.
Relating back to my previous thread comments re this beta, the new app design should aim for the drop down source list ( at least for the Theatre) mirroring the Remote Lists that you have set in the app and are sync’d to the BR1, as a minimum starting point.
agreed.
The full yellow bar is there only very very briefly, so I can’t see it as an issue.
What is confusing, regarding list of sources, is that from the initial beta (where there were hardly any sources of any type), the 5.4.1 update (at least for the Theatre), added back a lot – seemingly to mirror the 2 source lists we see under the TV/ Music BR1 buttons.
That was good – as a starting point at least, the app source list should be close to / the same as the BR1 remote list.
That all said, Mr. Anderson posted a sneak preview of the next update, and the screenshot again showed hardly any (only HDMI, it look like) sources.
Lets see what actually happens in the next beta – but I dont quite this back / forth re something as relatively straightforward as the app remote list.
I can’t speak for ML/NC converter sources etc, but as a starting point the app should mirror the TV/Music lists we have configured for our BR1’s.
I can’t see why the app should show something especially different.
you should see something like the below now.
Which is, as a starting point, a big improvement.
At least now the drop down source list mirrors the TV/Music buttons on your BR1 (not talking about ML sources etc).
My quick google search did show up other Wiim Pro owners with (what sounds like) the same (no sound) issue with 192 signals.
if you haven’t yet, try googling Wiim Pro coax 192khz……cant say for sure, but there seem to be other Wiim users who have (had) the same issue.
Not really sure what your question actually is then!?
Anyways, in the end if you’re happy with the Core, no reason to change.
Nothing anyone can write here will show or prove anything, and ultimately you’ll only know by testing things out in real life. And as I’m sure you know, the acoustics of your room `re a good deal more important than the merits of streamer x or y.
I’d add to (and in sprint agree with MM’s) post to your question.
You’ve only recently had your BL50s (if I remember right), so I’d certainly live with your Core based setup for a while.
If after a while there are aspects you are unhappy with, only then would I explore other options.
So yes, while I use a 3rd party input into my 50s, that choice was motivated by a few factors – a key factor being that I wanted to use Roon as my music interface, and was happy with the sound character of the Linn unit that I use (analogue DAC output).
It means my music (Roon interface controlled/managed) exists outside of the B&O ecosystem, even if it all comes out of B&O speakers.
But that hybrid setup is not going to suit everyone.
I don’t have any comments about Core sound quality.
But thats surely not the reason you got the Core?
I’m guessing you got it as something B&O which you could use to send music (streamed or network stored) to the 50s?
you’ll see within the B&O Discord server a section on the side called B&O Engagement. There are four threads under there (you can’t miss them), divided into Feature Requests for the Hardware / ecosystem side of things (Christian, and and a couple of employees checks in there), and Feature Requests for the App team (Mr. Andersen checks in there).
It was only set up recently – it’s not really meant for troubleshooting etc, but more for feature requests and feedback.
I’ve split out current state of play Feature Request lists for both the Hardware and App side of things.
Anyway, the B&O guys hopefully find it useful, and said they would check in there when they can, understanding of course that they are pretty busy.
This is the server link, for anyone interested.
Mr.Anderson from the app dev team is sometimes active on Discord, and asked for a separate App feedback/feature request thread to be set up on Discord.
People have been posting feature requests largely there, but as he checks in on Discord, it might be worth posting feedback there.
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