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Oh – and another thing Geoff – while you are viewing this topic.

I know you cant say anything about future product pipeline but we could really do with you passing on a message to TPTB in Struer for some slinky-slim ceiling speakers for our 5.2.X or 7.1.X Theatres. Something where I don’t have to book the builders 6 months in advance to do major wall/ceiling cavity excavation to hide amplifiers and fat drivers etc… Something perhaps with minimal wiring as well for ease so when we relocate our living quarters, the new habitants will never believe there was a loudspeaker there in the first place.

Thanks so much!

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Hi Geoff,

So one thing to “add-back” perhaps is the dB gain function in the eclipse which allowed to the User to try an match different source outputs to the same general level. I understand that watching Live TV, a volume setting of say 50 is required. On Netflix, 48-46. Amazon Prime I think has lots of people with hearing difficulty because I have to wind that down to 40-42. Again, as you indicate, it probably has something to do with the “quality” of the Title and its format.

This volume normalisation feature is employed it seems in Mybuttons but in a dark room, my muscle-memory of what is 1-2-3-4 Mybutton is not intuitive. Better just to press TV, curser down and select the most appealing blue writing on the screen. Sound levels pre-matched of course!

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Ive never had the 8000’s or derivatives but I have had 6000’s and 4000’s. I’m currently listening to BL3s in my office.

I think what you are describing is what was good in the 1990’s i.e. nice, sleek column speakers, great for background sound but were always lacking for enthusiastic listening.

Even the BL3’s – which I was playing around with in terms of parametric tuning (graphic equaliser in Richer Sounds speak) sound a little flat. They are great as monitors on the desk, but not so much when they are not literally like desk-mounted headphones.

What did offer an improvement as I recollect was adding a BL2 to my BL6000’s. They take a lot of that Bass (as in tone) from the 6000’s and add significantly extra bass (additional bass to the bass) not by “boosting” the bass, but allowing more of the bass hidden in the music to be revealed – which the 6000 bass/woofers could not reveal.

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Yeah….I know. I meant that to me, it wasn’t a deal breaker for me demanding my money back.

Rest assured, I’ve been keeping Beocare fully occupied since receiving my Theatre telling them of the same bugs I’ve observed.

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These however, do not work with the BL5’s.

INKT. ?  Learnt something new there.

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I think no matter what you do…..you will be listening to the BL5 DACs regardless.

CD Digital >> M-DAC >> Analogue PL >> BL5 ADC >> DSP >> BL5 DAC >> ICE >>

CD Digital >> SPDif                                                   >> DSP >> BL5 DAC >> ICE >>

I would suspect the BL5ADC is the weak link….but just guessing. (Educated guess as I was never happy with powerlink only on the BL5 compared to the SPDif connect which was much much better)

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I would imagine that a Core plugged in to a BL5 (TOS/Coax + PL) would not have any problems. How it sounds….well that is for you to decide by testing at home or with your Dealer. The trick with the BL5 is to always use a digital signal in for music over Powerlink.

I have seen the core as out-of-stock and Im trying to find the source but believe the Core may be getting a WISA/Mozart update soon with a new chipset. (??)

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I think the volume thing is not a hill of beans, just a muscle memory thing where the eyes tell you one thing but the ears say more. Once you get used to to 50-ish, it becomes second nature.

 

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This is an old YT video on Noto and BL90 Design. The fabrication of the crown and its economics is described briefly here at 18minutes.

 

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geoffmartin wrote: The sensitivity (the relationship between the levels of the input and the output signals) of the Beosound Theatre is the same as all other Beovision televisions (until the internal protection algorithms kick in). So, if you’re playing the same mix of the same input signal, then Volume Step 42 will deliver the same output level as on an Eclipse / Harmony / Beovision 11. Of course, this assumes that all other parameters are identical, which won’t make sense in most cases. (For example, I doubt that many persons will configure their Theatre to output only L / C / R as on an Eclipse.)

Interesting. My observation of replacing an Eclipse on a one-for-one swap with a Theatre – even keeping the same wiring loom connecting BL90, BL3 and an Oppo 105 is that my typical “action movie” volume setting of 47 (sufficient)  now runs 50-52.

Nothing wrong with that…..it may be like a potent sports car…. The more power, the more mundane it feels as you accelerate with ease, the more you crave more power??

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https://almando.com/almando-category/powerlink-switch.html

https://www.ebay.com/itm/264427531661

Maybe these help?

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Just doing research for the Essence/IR problem on another thread, found this.

BeoPart 6271214. IR Blaster cable with 3.5mm jacks to RJ45

 

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Everything I see about the Essence I have seen is that it is a BT-remote controlled and that the IR port was placed there for “future” use. But dont take my word as 100% Only 10%.

Also, unless you are a Beo4, say a BR1 or Essence remote, they will need placing in IR mode rather than BT mode.

Attached is all I have from an obsolete Beolink reference manual.

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Beojeff, Razlaw.

check you screen setting in the LG panel

List >> option >> (LG osm) >> General >> devices >> TV Management >>
activate Quick Start

May or may not solve your slow startup problem?

 

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I’m still ripping CDs. I’ve basically re-ripped my original ripped WMA files on the BS5, to FLAC, the re-ripped them all again with a Melco D100 ripper into a Melco N1 music server.

I have also migrated to Qobuz but still buy cheap CDs – often in used form from Amazon. It’s a cheap way of loading up on excellent quality rips which are yours to keep forever…..

I use Jaikoz to extensively re-tag my library to just the way I want it.

im sure my old BS5 can read all those FLACs again, but the age of CDs, rips and hard drives and so on is coming to end. Soon it will all be pay per view, including having your annual BMW seat-warming rental and your electric Mercedes that can accelerate just a little faster.  Just hope I can keep all my effort going another 30years or so when it won’t really matter what happens to my FLACs

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Shared bass across all loudspeakers to even out room-related issues.

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Each to their own preferences. I saw a picture a few days ago of a 77in, with wings on a table stand on the floor (BV5/9/10 – like) looked absolutely stunning.

im with the low slung cabinet/plinth look to.

Go for it!

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My opinion, is that the Theatre is a great leveller. I don’t think people should get hung up in speaker envy. If you have Beolabs and a Theatre, go for it and enjoy! It will be a great AV system and envy of many.

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Get the Dealer to come in and fix the problem. You are clearly not happy and you paid the dealer some big cash for this. Make it warranty claim/non-satisfactory item claim.

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There could be lots of things wrong in terms of setting and user configuration. There’s not enough there to really help you specifically. Your hardware should have more than ample bass – even at neutral settings – so genuine concern

The Theatre has a high-speed eArc cable supplied. Ask why they never used it – you paid for it. The old stage cable should go with the stage.

Check you are not in Night mode – that may make a difference.

Check Listening positions >> Select one >> Speakers Included >> Bass Management (120hz)

Check Sound modes >> Select One (movie) >> Advanced >> Check if anything is wrong here (hard to do as reference is not easy)

Failing everything, contemplate doing a complete factory re-set of the Theatre and re-build from scratch?

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