[BeoMedia]

Hi Sven,

To connect your BS9000 you will need a NL/ML Converter but even with this integration is not optimal. If all speakers are connected to your Theatre you cannot just press e.g. “CD” on your remote, you need to start the “CD” session on the NL/ML Converter and then “JOIN” this session with your Theatre and then you can change track etc. Alternatively you can connect one of the outputs from your BS9000 to your Theatre but then you cannot control the BS9000 through the Theatre.

For your speakers to play you need to have a “Listening Position” where you speakers are acrivated.

[BeoMedia]

Hi Kim, interesting you bring this topic up.

To my Theatre as rear and ceiling speakers I have four BeoLab 4000 speakers (not the ICE version) connected. The rear speakers are furthest away and connected with 20m cables (two 10m cables in extension). When speakers are turned on at very low or any volume I can hear a faint hissing. To be honest I am the only one noticing this but I still find it irritating.

I do not see any way around not allowing cables to cross each other, after all my subwoofer and front speakers also need to be connected to the Theatre and between them and the Theatre their cables run side by side the cables for my rear speakers. Everything has to be connected to the Theatre.

I thought it might be due to by BeoLab 4000 speakers not being digital which could perhaps explain the light hissing as they are not of the later ICE version but as you have the same with your BeoLab 3 I suspect that is not the issue. As a comment, my front speakers which are BeoLab 1’s (ICE) do not have the faint hissing but then again the cabling to them is much shorter as they are front speakers.

I even tried a set of Beolab Receiver 1’s with 1.5m cables for the rear speakers. That helped but as I live in a larger city with many wifi access points the setup on the other hand suffered from the occasional drop-out (noticeable by the speaker relays clicking off and on). B&O support checked my system and said they would not recommend using WiSA as I have too many wifi signals in my neighborhood so I went back to the cabling.

 

Does anyone else have experience with this?

[BeoMedia]

I have now connected PUC controller for my Blu Ray player (Panasonic). I have also turned off CEC control to avoid double communication with the player. The PUC for the player is set to go in stand by “at source change”.

The problem I am experiencing is that when I turn the system on to watch “live TV” this also turns on the Blu Ray player so it starts to play in the background. Have you experienced this and is there a solution please?

[BeoMedia]

Hi there,

I am not on any beta version either and I also experienced a similar issue. The only solution that worked for me was to factory reset the Beosound Theatre and start over. Then it all worked. My guess is all the updates have made the previous setup and settings corruptive.
Factory reset is not as bad as it sounds – it is much quicker than to waste time on trying to make it work by not performing a factory reset.

[BeoMedia]

@Stan

Many thanks for checking this out. That is a shame but very useful to know.

[BeoMedia]

Great idea – wasn’t aware that you could repurpose these drivers. Did you set them both to center subs? (on the diagram it would appear that is a rear center sub)?

I’ve just set them to “Subwoofer left” and “Subwoofer right”. I hope that will sound well.
I already have a Beolab 2 subwoofer set to the role of “Subwoofer centre”.

[BeoMedia]

Thank you for the guide, very useful and I have now printed it off.
According to this guide it appears that “virtual speakers” are really for single user applications and without other speakers connected.

As a side topic I can’t help but feel it is a shame that all of of the speakers in the Theatre, except the centre speaker, are meant to be turned off when you have external speakers connected (L+R front and rear). Do you also have most of the speakers in the Theatre turned off in a surround setup with external speakers?

[BeoMedia]

Thanks Stan, yes if I would be sure I could connect to a Beosound Stage with AirPlay, and listen to this in another link room (via NL/ML converter and otherwise ML infrastructure) that would be brilliant.
Presumably that would allow me to skip to the next song from the kitchen with my Beo4?

Does anyone have experience with this?

[BeoMedia]

How to use “Virtual Speakers”?

I have activated the function of Virtual Speakers in my otherwise 5.1.2 setup. As per below copy-paste from the Technical Sound Guide and tonmeister.ca, these “virtual speakers” are actually produced from the left and right front-firing speakers go the Theatre. However, when I active these “virtual speakers” while in 5.1.2 these left and right from-firing speakers of the Theatre still appear to be turned off when I go into the settings.

1. Am I meant to manually turn these these left and right front-firing speakers on in order to use “Virtual Speakers” function and if so what role do I designate to them?
2. Or, once I assign use of the “Virtual Speakers” is that all and do the left and right front-firing speaker create this virtual feature despite the settings show they are turned off?

 

“Beosound Theatre gives you the option to choose Virtual Loudspeakers that appear to be located in four different positions: Left and Right Wide, and Left and Right Elevated. These signals are actually produced using the Left and Right front-firing outputs of the device using this combination of binaural processing and crosstalk cancellation in the Dolby Atmos processing system.”

Source: https://www.tonmeister.ca/wordpress/2022/11/28/beosound-theatre-virtual-loudspeakers/

[BeoMedia]

Sandyb wrote:

Willie (of the podcast fame) went through an interesting Theatre Speaker Setup – Best Practices document. Its not super long – 15 slides, but if anyone missed it, its worth going through I think.

 

Interesting – where do I find this please?

[BeoMedia]

It might just be me late to discover this.

But, when I for the first time added Beolab Receiver 1’s to my Theatre I was given the option to choose which speakers were connected to these.
At the time I added the above my Theatre was running v3.4.1 (but afterwards updated to v3.4.2).

I recall other users requesting the option to being able to specify which speakers they had connected to their Beolab Receiver 1’s hence I post my findings.

[BeoMedia]

Thank you for reposting. I don’t think dealers can order parts anymore as repairs are no longer done by them. So, how can one purchase a new firmware? I am comfortable making the upgrade myself but lack the upgraded firmware.
im looking for 2.21a for a Beosound 9000 mkii type 256x please.

[BeoMedia]

Hi Pindsen, did you find a belt in the end?

If so could you share the source please as I’m in the same boat looking for a new belt. Suspect many owners will be eventually and I don’t know where one can order new parts from B&O.
Thanks

[BeoMedia]

this is correct behaviour. Allows the BM3500 to distribute the sound toothed rooms if you are running a link system.
If you press STOP you will achieve what you are describing.

[BeoMedia]

Thanks, MM. from what I recall (I actually disconnected my NL/ML Converter as I didn’t think it added much anymore when I replaced my BV11 with a Theatre setup) I could also start a source and then “join” from the Theatre. Can’t remember if it was sufficient to start from the ML stereo or I had to start the stereo from the NL/ML Converter. Will try later today.
I have also responded to B&O support to ask them to clarify what adding a Core would achieve. Upon reading their response again it is rather unclear and vague. Will report back here if I learn something.
The Theatre is a great product but it would have been even better if it could integrate with previous products better. If ASE products could do that I can’t help but wonder if the Mozart platform was a step backwards but perhaps it has other advantages I am not aware about.

[BeoMedia]

Thank you MM, my mistake I thought the BV8 was a NL product.

I have a ML stereo, the NL/ML converter and a Theatre. Reason I look for an ASE product is that B&O support explained to me in response to my request to activate an audio source from my Theatre that the Theatre which runs on Mozart is backwards compatible with previous generation so that if I had a Core (they specifically used Core as an example but I would think any ASE product would work?)  the Theatre could activate the sources available on the Core.
So, I would be hoping that if my ML sources (via the NL/ML converter) would show on the Core then my Theatre could activate these ML sources from the living room. I was told that my NL/ML converter alone would not be enough.

I think to recollect you have mentioned you have a Beosound Essence, if mk2 it would be ASE. Can you activate ML sources available on the Essence directly from your Theatre?

[BeoMedia]

Would a Beovision 8 also be an ASE product? The link you provided only shows specifically audio products.
Thanks in advance

[BeoMedia]

Correct, connected with powerlink.

[BeoMedia]

Both the app and the Theatre is dependant on their own network connection. Are you sure the smartphone and the Theatre has a good network connection?

[BeoMedia]

Thanks guys, that helps a lot.

My setup in addition to the Theatre is

1x Beolab 2

2x Beolab 1

4x Beolab 4000

Two of the lab 4000’s are near the ceiling playing over listening position and the two other lab 4000’s are in the back.

I just noticed the the Theatre calibration had made the two lab 4000’s in the back as “left back” and “right back” while the two lab 4000’s in the ceiling were “left surround” and “right surround”. This is all correct and a standard 7.1 setup. However, my aim was rather to make it into an Atmos system as 5.1.2

So, I have now changed it to so the two lab 4000’s in the rear of the room are now “left surround” and “right surround” while the two lab 4000’s in the ceiling above the listening position are “left front height” and “right front height”.

I will give this a go and see if more sound is coming from the rear of the room. I suspect it will. Then I will try to adjust the dB levels of the speakers if need be.

Though I haven’t yet, I intend to study the technical sound guide so I can make the most out of this system.

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