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  • in reply to: Beogram motor bearings issue #57337
    RIB2906
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      in reply to: Beogram motor bearings issue #57336
      RIB2906
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        • Hi Martin, I’m pleased to say that I’ve now completed changing the bearings on both decks and they are running smoothly at the right speed. They are however both still making a (lower) level of ambient noise which sounds like the motor running and the idler wheel against the drive cone. I’m attaching two short recordings of the sound from close by and then at 1m distance to demonstrate the attenuation. I’d appreciate you experienced opinion here as I can’t now judge how much drive noise there was before the 2000 deck hit problems. I can only compare with my recent Pro-Ject deck which is near enough silent. Given these B&O decks are nearly 50 years old, do you think I should expect to hear some ambient drive noise or is there a likely cause I can address? I have changed bearings, belts, idler wheels and lifter pads so not sure what more I can do! Many thanks, Richard

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        in reply to: Beogram motor bearings issue #56953
        RIB2906
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          Hi Martin,

          I have checked the motors and you are quite right, all 4 bearings are non-collared so I have ordered 2 pairs to replace them. May I please ask 2 (last?) questions?

          1 you mentioned I should use “oil suitable for use with sinter-bronze. It needs to have the
          right additives.” Can you recommend one that I should use? I’m thinking of using WD40 white lithium grease spray, would that be OK?

          2 Should I spray the oil into the new reservoir felts? Many thanks, Richard.

          in reply to: Beogram motor bearings issue #56636
          RIB2906
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            Thank you for that advice Martin. That is information way beyond my knowledge and it seems lubricating the bearings may be of limited benefit. May I ask please if I should order Beoparts “Motor bearings set for Beogram & Beocenter motor with 3mm spindle and one collared bearing” for both types 1203 and 2000/5244?  It may be that I need to first take apart the two motors to check whether or not they each<!–more–> require one collared bearing.

            Thank you,

            Richard

            in reply to: Beogram motor bearings issue #56629
            RIB2906
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              Hi Christian and Martin,

              Thank you both for responding on this. I have now watched (and saved!) one of the you tube videos which shows me exactly how to access both the bottom and top bearings for the motor. It appears more straightforward than I thought so I will access and lubricate the 2 bearings on the 1203 and if that quietens the motor I’ll repeat it on the 2000/ 5244. I have also now checked using noise cancelling headphones that the noise is not transmitted with the output signal and pleased to say it is not. It’s just ambient and slightly annoying close to the deck but a bit less with the lid on. I really appreciate your help and think I now have the answers I was looking for. If cleaning and lubing the bearings does not work then I’ll buy and fit new ones.

              Thanks again!

              Richard

              in reply to: Beogram motor bearings issue #56617
              RIB2906
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                Martin, I’m wondering if you could help me here please? I recall your advice earlier  to replace the bearings, which I really appreciated. I need a steer on how to remove the old bearings and whether there is an appropriate removal tool for these which are the 3mm drive shaft size. Help!

                in reply to: Beogram 2000 (5244) Speed changer issues #53091
                RIB2906
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                  1. Thank you very much Martin. That confirms what I thought it should be. I’ve ordered a replacement small pad as it is missing. Possibly disintegrated. Thanks again. Much appreciated.
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                  in reply to: Beogram 2000 (5244) Speed changer issues #53089
                  RIB2906
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                    That’s really helpful – thank you!

                    I had the motor replaced a couple of years ago so I think that should be fine but I have noticed the re-assembly of the parts was wrong with inversion of Spacers causing some impacts which I have now fixed. I don’t have the service manual so may I ask for your assistance with one more question please?  Please see the attached image from Beoparts of the idler wheel underside. My question is should the end of the lifter arm fit into the slot in the side of the brass bush or does the brass bush sit on the idler arm held in place by gravity? In the slot appears to make more sense.

                     

                    Many thanks,

                     

                    Richard

                    in reply to: Beogram 2000 (5244) Speed changer issues #53087
                    RIB2906
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                      Hi Martin, thanks for the advice. May I ask for your help with two things please? Any idea where I can source the parts? Secondly is there a recommended lubricant? Many thanks, Richard.

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