Worst Value for Money B&O Product?

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  • #3652
    9_LEE
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    We always look at the negatives as well as the positives on here, and even B&O admitted that our very vocal slating of not putting HDMI sockets in the original BeoVision 7’s was a real own-goal.

    Yes, things have moved on – and to be fair B&O are pretty much on point with this kind of thing – but is there a product you look at and thing ‘Wow.. that’s pretty poor value for money if you break it down’

    I suppose you could look at the TV’s with the LG screens, but you’re getting B&O design there.  I think for me the worst value products have to be amongst the cheaply made earbuds and low-end headphones which are now thankfully discontinued, so….

    My vote goes to the BeoSound Edge.  I’ve never thought it sounded great, it’s impractical, cumbersome, easily damaged, and extremely expensive for what it is.

    Your thoughts?

    #3657
    Mr10Percent
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    I think value for money is a matter of perspective.

    I’ve purchased plenty of tatt (the MP3 Player Beosound 2 for instance). Beolab4s. They all have had degrees of good/bad value about them. I guess if you use them and not worry about the latest thing, they work out as well-used products that do a job and fulfil a need.

    I do have concern over my Eclipse 65 MK1. I baulk at the thought of having to replace the whole thing if the panel fails.

    You could also include the Beolab90. These are fantastic loudspeakers (I can barely listen to Beolab 3s in the office as their sound is so poor). These were purchased when affordability was easy (and still can be for me fortunately). However, one does worry of the cost of repair should these things start to fail. Mine now have just had their 6th birthday.

    #3665
    Mr10Percent
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    Quiet in here. What’s going on?

    #3669
    Stan
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    I have to agree about the Edge in terms of recent products.  It just seems like design got a bit too far ahead of utility.  Although, I have never seen one in person so perhaps the beauty is overwhelming in person.

    The original BS2 (mp3 player) was “crazy” expensive and <gasp!> no display, but I used mine regularly for many years so I guess it wasn’t that expensive in the long run.

    The one product I sort of wish I had never bought was the BeoLink Wireless 1.  Lots of frustration (worked great until it randomly decided not to), and then I doubled down and bought a couple used ones, and still couldn’t get them to work reliably.  I’m afraid to sell them since they don’t work, and I guess I probably missed the window on selling them.

    #3672
    Emilos88
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    I would also say the Edge,

    The Beovision Contour, is a very simple Bevision compared to Eclipse and Harmony.

    But they do sell a lot of them, so people are clearly interested in paying just for design.

     

    #3756
    CB
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    This is certainly a personal feeling, and in my case, I can list these:

    Essence mk1: too expensive for what it was, few features, B&O helping it die faster

    Beosound 3: expensive, heavy for a portable radio, fragile top panel

    Beolab 5: far too expensive, fragile, mediocre dealer to say the least, anxiety-provoking. Here it’s the global experience, not the product alone, that has worst value for money.

    #3758
    IA64
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    Beosound moment hands down… Then literally every B&O speaker…

    I have a pair of BeoLab20 and I hate them, really hate them because the DSP does very funny things with the bass and it depends on the genre you’re listening to.

    I have couple of B&O Palatial speakers in the other room with an SVS SB-3000 subwoofer and I can assure you that they sound much better than my BL20s…

    #3771
    Csaba
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    I don’t have a full overview of the B&O portfolio dating back decades so I am going to assume we are mainly discussing the current line-up and products from 1 or 2 generations ago. For me any B&O TV is crazy expensive when comparing to regular TVs but of course I do understand the craftsmanship going into them and that they are not just a TV but also speakers. A Contour is much more appealing to me than a Harmony or Eclipse but I don’t watch TV these days so I don’t care about them.

    On the speaker front it is also a bit relative. Within the current line-up I think the Emerge should deliver more punch for the price. For the price, even the black one should have more performance. It is easy to overlook this colour option when the oak version is even more expensive. Comparing to the sound of the Beolit 20 it is way less powerful and I am not sure the design is so much worth a price tag that is 1.5/almost 2 times that of the Beolit 20. I do like the oak one though.

    Looking at the Beosound A1 Dune edition, I seriously cannot appreciate it the way 100 people find it justified, when I feel like some of the standard options for much less are actually prettier and more balanced in their overall looks.

    Personally for me it was more worth it to spend more on a Balance Bespoke, so that supports the idea of the conversation being based on personal preference.

    I’m also going to compare the current Beosound 2 to itself. It is definitely less value for the money today compared to last year.

    Then we’re into price increase territory…

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    #3781
    AdamS
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    I have to agree on the Beosound 2 MP3 player. I have one as my wife bought me one as a Christmas present but I have never used it and it’s only ever been out of the box for me to go “oooh” and “aaah” over it. That said, i still can’t quite bring myself to sell it!

     

    #3792
    Stan
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    @AdamS,

    You missed the window on the BS2 mp3 player.  A few years ago (2014?), they were selling for silly money in Japan or China.  I recall seeing a “sold” ebay listing for ~$1000.00.  Alas, I didn’t bother with trying to sell mine because it was slightly damaged, and I have misplaced the dock somewhere (at some point I started using the travel charger exclusively).  Lately, I’ve seen one listed for $200, but not if it was triggering any bidding action.

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    sc212
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    my vote goes to the beomaster5.

    basically a totally outdated pc. hooking this up to the local network or -much worse- to the internet in 2022 is insane, since windows xp didnt get any security updates since 2014. some enthusiasts are installing antivirus software on this thing, because they believe this would fix this. as an it-guy i can assure you: no, it doesnt. using it as standalone device is completly pointless. also, i dont understand why they put a custom proprietary bios on this thing. swapping the harddisk or the motherboard is a pain in the back this way. there is no reason for something like this, except enforcing you to visit a branddealer. the casing is an other story: it has some kind of rubbery layer on it. nearly impossible to find one in good condition these days, since the rubber doesnt age well. btw. what material is this? is it healthy to touch this after 20years, without instantly diying on cancer? maybe an exaggeration, but you get the point. then there is power consumption. A whole pc, just to listen to some music.

    its sad. the beosound5 which comes with it, is such a nice display-controller-unit.

    #4697
    Isthatthebeotime
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    Current

    Beosystem 72-22

    Beogram 4000c

    Yet I’d love to have them

    Also

    BeoSound Emerge

     

    Past

    Beoplay A3 iPad speaker dock hands down

    #4743
    moxxey
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    My vote goes to the BeoSound Edge.  I’ve never thought it sounded great, it’s impractical, cumbersome, easily damaged, and extremely expensive for what it is.

    Sadly Lee, I’d have to agree with this. Luckily my Edge was good value at £1450 (a few years ago), but I almost never use it. The sound is just, odd. BeoSound 2 runs circles around it, as does my Balance.

    In theory, the Edge should be as good as the A9 or close. It’s no comparison.

    I’d nudge the Halo towards ‘worst value’ as for me it does almost nothing of any worth. It’s one of those strange objects we think impresses our friends, when really you have to get off your backside, walk over to it, then pick something on it’s fiddly UI, move a manual wheel….only to find the battery has died, again. I now have mine permanently connected to a USB cable.

    And all this for £700. Sometimes I think I’m a mug to buy these objects. It would have been awesome in 1992. But I do think some B&O users still live in 1992.

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