Should I Spend 75$?

[Hunchbacker]

That’s somewhat of a rhetorical question. Would probably buy this just as a piece of vintage artwork but here is what the description says…

“Outside is pretty beat up and missing some trim but the inside is pristine! Likely for parts at this point, but I’m guessing it wouldn’t take much to fix. I got it from the original owner, I probably have the paperwork and sales brochure for it somewhere. Doesn’t power on, but he kept his things in tip top shape until he got older and couldn’t use them anymore”.

I know little about this deck except that it can be complicated. Insights anyone? He’s asking 75$

 

 

 

[Mark-sf]

Can’t really comment on it without more details. However, for $75 it’s a steal no matter its condition. It will likely need an overhaul but there are plenty of parts such as belts, relays, caps, fuses, etc available.

[Hunchbacker]

Thanks. Will post more when I pick it up.

[Hunchbacker]

Spoke with the seller today, ready to pu. Said he asked around and realized he was charging too little. Said 2-300 was his range now. Too rich for me right now. Luckily picked up a JVC QL-A2 at the GW…but that is for another forum. Hope to be back again someday. Learned a lot here.

[ChristianHak]

Which country is it located in?

[Hunchbacker]

Seattle, Washington,USA

Offerup

 

[chartz]

Go ahead. I’d buy it.

[Hunchbacker]

Don’t tempt me. I see it re-listed now at $200. :0

[Hunchbacker]

UPDATE:

I watched this listing for about 2 weeks after the seller decided he was selling it too low. He finally dropped his price to 130. I offered 120 and he accepted. In his OfferUp description he said it did not power on. Well you will see by the pictures it indeed does! Lights come on, motor spins but nothing happens when I hit start. One of these pictures, I trust, tells a hopeful story.  I have done nothing yet. Refurbed plenty of vintage electronics but as you all know this is a different cat. Open to first steps and ideas from the experts.

 

[Hunchbacker]

Also, this seems to be a one owner table. The seller picked it up from an elderly gentleman who had passed. Included, to my surprise, were original brochures and registration. 1976 from Magnolia HiFi. Pretty much a Northwest icon when it comes to high end electronics.

[Tjorven]

wow, 75$ for a Beogram 4002, that’s amazing. In northern Europe they go for ten times that amount for a unit in similar condition or worse. In good working condition you have to pay 1000$-1500$ (and it does not even need to include one of the top cartridges).

Just the MMC6000 cartridge (the finest cartridge they ever produced if I’m not wrong) alone is worth 300$-400$ if it’s in OK shape.

Edit: looks to be in great condition. I would, without hesitation, paid 400-500 bucks for that turntable, even if it it came without a cartridge. Congratulations on well spent 120$

[Hunchbacker]

Thanks Tjorven.

I could barely contain myself on the drive home. I kept reaching to the back seat and patting the blanket to make sure it was still there.

A couple of things:

I boiled the belt (old school trick) to see if it would shrink enough to give me a few turns. It did not. It is much too big. Guessing this table has not spun for quite a while.

I am going to oil (with 100% synthetic) all the necessary spots while I wait for replacement belts.

Finally, if anyone knows the dimensions on the wood trim that would be helpful. Surprisingly, it came without it.

[Tjorven]

I’m constantly on the look out for a beogram 4000/4002/4004 on Scandinavian auction sites but no luck so far :). Seem as the prices on these sought-after models have almost quadrupled in the last 4 years.

For the wood frame/trim I would check this blog, he’s fitting a Beogram 4002 plinth to a 4000: https://beolover.blogspot.com/2020/06/beogram-4000-exchanging-plinth-panels.html

This danish shop sell a lot of parts for Beograms, including belts for 4002: https://www.beoparts-shop.com/product/belt-for-carriage-servo-motor-beogram-4000-4002-4004-6000-tangential/

[Hunchbacker]

Much appreciated.

I am sure this seller never pulled the platter and saw the dropped belt. My good luck.

[Mark-sf]

Great find!  Make sure you also order a servo belt.

[Hunchbacker]

In the works. Thanks

 

[Tjorven]

If I managed to find a 4002 that cheap, I would probably consider having a professional turntable technician (experienced with vintage B&O) take a look at it, might be worth spending 400-500 bucks more to get it to run smooth and reliable. I would not dare to mess with a pretty complex linear tracking turntable, would probably destroy it 🙂

[Hunchbacker]

I am considering just that after I belt it up. Fortunately, in our quaint little town of Gig Harbor, Wa. we have an audio shop that specializes in B&O. What are the odds. :0

[chartz]

1. I bought a mint white 4002 12 years ago for € 50. Nobody wanted them back then.

How things change! Today’s prices are becoming ludicrous. What I could afford in the past is unattainable now.

So you got yourself a clear bargain. I just hope you’ll keep it and not sell it. Sometimes I help people (free advice) repair their ‘precious’ hi-fi devices, only to see them later on local ads for a huge asking price. That makes me cross. Anyway, I digress, I’ll stop ranting.

Enjoy your great deck!

I’m happy I started my B&O collection in the late noughties.

[Hunchbacker]

With out a doubt a keeper! May have to move one of my other 3 tts though. 🙂

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