Masterlink – Play button turns whole system off

[carolpa]

Madskp wrote:

So I just did some testing with some of my equipment:

Beocenter 9300 – 7 pin datalink cable –  1611 – masterlink cable – Beolab 3500 MK1 both with, and without a powerlink cable between the BC9300 and the 1611.

Beosound Ouverture – Masterlink cable – Beolab 3500 MK1

In bot cases I get the same behaviour as you describe even when I start the music from the master system.

Now what I expected. I will see if I have time to look more into this today

Madskp wrote:

speedsixdave wrote:
Do you have the short circuit in your setups, @madskp? No idea if this is actually relevant or not.
I am not sure. Most of my stuff is in a non permanent setup, so I often switch cables between different units. I will try to check up on this when I have some time, probably in a couple of days.

carolpa wrote:
Normal in ML : short STBY will stop only the product in the room addressed. Long STBY will put the whole system in standby.
That is also what the manuals for the link products describe, so even more puzzling that I can reproduce this issue with two different Audio Masters.

Will also try to look into trying with other components if the above does not change anything.

The T1611 was designed to connect a non ML Audio to a ML Video – or – to connect a ML Audio to a non ML Video.

In the proposed settting the Video ML/ Video non ML is missing. Maybe this is the cause of the behaviour.
Note: I have a Beosystem 7000 – T1611 – BLC connected in my Netlink. I have to set the BLC up as VMaster to work correctly if I’m right (note: I have to check this though! Currently the Beosystem 7000/BLC is out of order, starting early next week it is up and running again).

[speedsixdave]

carolpa wrote:

The T1611 was designed to connect a non ML Audio to a ML Video – or – to connect a ML Audio to a non ML Video.

In the proposed settting the Video ML/ Video non ML is missing. Maybe this is the cause of the behaviour.
Note: I have a Beosystem 7000 – T1611 – BLC connected in my Netlink. I have to set the BLC up as VMaster to work correctly if I’m right (note: I have to check this though! Currently the Beosystem 7000/BLC is out of order, starting early next week it is up and running again).

Is that right? The 1997 Masterlink manual has this:

BeoLink Converter is used when audio and video products with Master
Link and Audio Aux Link (datalink) have to be interconnected.
BeoLink Converter can be used in conjunction with both a video and an
audio master. BeoLink Converter features autoconfiguration, meaning
that it is able to detect automatically whether it is installed in a Master
Link audio or in a Master Link video system. Configuration takes place
when it is connected to the mains.
BeoLink Converter can also be used as ML-driver*, which means that it is
possible to connect e.g. a BeoCenter 2300 via the BeoLink Converter to
the Master Link and thereby distribute sound to all link room products
(see page 17).
BeoLink Converter is used in compatibility setups (see the section on
recommended compatibility setups, page 17).
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Which I would interpret as ‘can be used in an audio-only setup’. Frankly I can’t understand why anyone would want to connect their telly to a multiroom setup, but that’s me being out of step I guess!

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[speedsixdave]

@TK – thanks for all that helpful and interesting information. If I can attempt to boil that down to my own level of understanding. everything is ‘Language A/MCL’ from the invention of the Beolink 1000 and MCL2, up to the invention of Masterlink, which is then a new ‘Language B/ML’, and the IR-eyes are not doing any translating, just passing ‘Language A/MCL’ messages. Newer ML equipment is presumably translating the Language A signals to Language B and in the case of the BL1611, back again:

Beolink 1000 > Language A/MCL > Beolink Passive > Language B/ML > Beolink Converter > Language A/MCL > Beomaster 6500

Possibly I’m wrong and there is no independent Language B, it’s just Language A with a bigger potential set of commands.

Anyway what I still think may be happening is that the short Standby command is being mis-translated or miscommunicated into Language B/ML. I presume this is happening in the Beolink Passive (or Active) but whatever circuitry is doing that mistranslation is bypassed if the Passive is used as an ML/MCL converter. This is definitely making my brain hurt a bit!

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