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  • #40202
    Olasitu
    BRONZE Member

      I have been trying for days to Stereo pair my Beolab 28s. I hear from others that this is a main issue. Please confirm. 1 speaker loses network connection as soon as pairing starts. The speakers are functioning individually.  I have verified the router is up to date. And the speakers have good internet connection on the same Wifi network. Really really frustrating. App has been reinstalled several times. Does this mean I really need an Ethernet connection to Stereo pair?

      #40203
      KolfMAKER
      SILVER Member
        • The Netherlands

        I am not sure as I have never setup such system with new BeoLab’s. Nevertheless, maybe some questions and suggestions to think over.

         

        • Did this setup work before (showroom/pre-owner), or is this a first install?
        • Did you try to reset the BeoLab’s to factory standard?
        • Did you try to reinstall or update the speaker firmware?
        • Did you try to change the order in which you connect and pair the speakers?
        • Did you remove the B&O configuration App from your smartphone, and than reinstall it again?
        #40204
        Olasitu
        BRONZE Member

          Did this setup work before (showroom/pre-owner), or is this a first install?- This is a fresh install. Right out of the box.
          Did you try to reset the BeoLab’s to factory standard? – Yes I have reset several times.
          Did you try to reinstall or update the speaker firmware? Yes. Reset and upgrade ran several times. However after factory reset it didnt download software after the first software download. I guess it is checking version.
          Did you try to change the order in which you connect and pair the speakers? – Yes. Several times. The issue is that Once you select a speaker as primary the other speaker loses connectivity. Happening with both speakers. Sometimes the primary speaker proceeds to complete the stereo pairing with only 1 speaker !
          Did you remove the B&O configuration App from your smartphone, and than reinstall it again? Yes. I have done this several times.

          Being at this for days. This is just horrible from B&O. Sonos costs farrr less than B&O and have totally seamless pairing. Come on B&O ! this is horrible. If Sonos can get this right what is issue with your software?

          #40205
          trackbeo
          Blocked

            1) Yes, of course you should *test* it wired.  For the cost of one 20′ and one 40′ prepack Category 6 (or even Cat 5e, it doesn’t need expensive cables) you can eliminate all uncertainty as to software vs. [hardware damage + transmission failure].  If that fails, you just return them, full stop (and ask why your dealer didn’t deliver & set up your  $15,000.00-to-$18,000.00 speakers as part&parcel of the sale).

            2) Sonos got issued a lot of bogus patents way too easily, but their original ones — for building & automatically maintaining a mesh network and synchronization among their zones — were real gems.  Versus B&O which must rely on the quality of the underlying Wi-Fi network.  Making your Wi-Fi network error-free may or may not be possible depending on where you live and what hardware you use.  But that’s where you go, next.  Another reason to at least try cables as part of the debugging process.  See #1 above.

            3) There may yet be a B&O software bug responsible; recovery from transmission errors requires both high quality software engineering and a transmission channel that isn’t too frequently hit.  (And doing the pairing at all, though it sounds easy to you & me, still requires a fair bit of software.)  Or there may yet be a hardware bug, or some defect with your particular units’ Wi-Fi SoC or antennas.  (One might argue that debugging this isn’t your problem, but what price beauty?)  Cabling them up for a test gives you a baseline from which to work. See #1 above.

            I agree with you that Sonos’ system software is way more developed than B&O’s.  B&O doesn’t even have a method (well, at least not customer-facing) to tell the units to report how well their transmissions (receptions, actually in most cases) are working.  But complaining about that and waiting for reply or updates is a fool’s errand.  Good luck, and please don’t forget to post once you figure it out!

            #40206
            Olasitu
            BRONZE Member

              Thank you @Trackbeo.

              Setting them up via Ethernet is next. Good news is that both speakers are working well. Glorious sound. I could even stream to both speakers individually via Bluetooth. Double Mono :-). And each one has established connectivity to the Wifi network. The issue is the last leg of Stereo Pairing. As soon as pairing starts the primary drops its Wifi connection. Even when you switch speakers. The Primary will drop. I can monitor connections on the Router. So at least there is some consistency.

              Nevertheless, the B&O app and overall set up experience is just horrible. These speakers are heavily marketed as Wireless but not sure how many people use them in full Wireless mode due to the limitations.

              Unfortunately, I couldn’t do the dealer set up … I bought them overseas and shipped them with me in boxes on a recent trip to Germany. Would have been too risky shipping them assembled.

              I will keep you all you all updated.

              #40207
              LeMirage
              BRONZE Member

                Does your wifi router transmit on both 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz with the same SSID?

                try and switch off one of the bands in the wifi settings, it may help….

                I have had numerous connections issues with my Halo, this trick fixed it for me.

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 

                 

                #40208
                Olasitu
                BRONZE Member

                  Hi there … thank you for the feedback. Yes. I noticed the speakers connecting to different access points and different frequencies. I created dedicated Wifi networks configured for 5Ghz and 2.4 Ghz. Same thing. Speakers connect successfully but the Primary speaker disconnects as soon as the pairing starts. I am on a Mesh network but I shut that down yet still a problem.

                  #40209
                  Olasitu
                  BRONZE Member

                    Update …. I tried all possible fixes for the Wireless/Wifi paring without success.

                    I have switched to the Ethernet connection. One speaker connected to the LAN and the other daisy chained via another Cat 6 directly. So direct Cat 6 connection between the 2 speakers.

                    System working perfectly! LAN connection appears to be a preferred mode in any case based on the manuals.

                    Next test is the PowerLink connection between the Speakers and the TV (LG C2) via a Hall Audio streamer. Using DIN/RJ45 connections between the 2 speakers connected directly to the Hall Audio via a PowerLink Splitter. I will post outcomes under another post not to divert the topic of this post.

                    #40210
                    chho
                    BRONZE Member

                      Hello

                      My situation is similar but yet different. After the latest firmware update, the wifi connectivity is no longer an issue. It’s now the stereo paring keeps dropping every now and then. From app’s connection status and “map”, both speakers seems to connect just fine.

                      Is there anyone having the same issue? Is there a workaround instead goring for the wired mode? I brought B&O because of wireless.

                      Thanks,

                      #40211
                      MVR
                      BRONZE Member

                        I’m in the same position: bought the B28 system to get rid of the cables about 18 months ago and indeed, the pairing works sometimes fine for a week, then it’s deteriorating and the secondary speaker doesn’t follow.  Full reinstallation didn’t help.  Wifi strength is fine.  I wonder if there’s anybody happy with the wireless solution. Conclusion: I will cable the primary speaker to the router and the secondary speaker with a cat 6 cable.

                        #40212
                        Severed_hand_of_skywalker
                        BRONZE Member
                          • Toronto, Canada

                          Be careful with Cat6 cables. I used some and it caused buzz’s and clicks. You should really use Shielded cat 7 cables to be safe.

                          #40213
                          MVR
                          BRONZE Member

                            Thanks for the tip. We’ll do.

                            #40214
                            MVR
                            BRONZE Member

                              Hello there, can anyone answer my question: when I connect the primary speaker with LAN and cable the secondary speaker to the primary one, will I still be able to stream Spotify from my mobile? Thanks in advance.

                              #40215
                              matteventu
                              BRONZE Member

                                Hello there, can anyone answer my question: when I connect the primary speaker with LAN and cable the secondary speaker to the primary one, will I still be able to stream Spotify from my mobile? Thanks in advance.

                                Yes, you will still be able to use Spotify Connect.

                                #40216
                                MVR
                                BRONZE Member

                                  Good news, thanks a lot.

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