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  • #51909
    eprokos
    BRONZE Member

      Hello everybody,

      I am facing the following problem:

      I have a Beogram 6500 and a Beosound 9000. These two devices I connect with the line input on the Besound Moment and then stream to Beolab 18.

      Every time I want to change device I have to change the cables. Is there a small but good quality device to change with a button the input?

      Also I want to be able to stream to Beoplay H95 with Bt ( not simultaneously with the Moment)

      So I was thinking that this device should have 2 RCA inputs and 1 RCA outpout & Bt.

      You have any suggestions on that?

      Thank you

      #51910
      Millemissen
      BRONZE Member
        • Flensborg————Danmark

        Why not connect the Beogram directly to the 9000?
        Then you’d need only one connection to the line-in of the Moment.

        As for the BT question – if you ‘only’ want to send from the 9000/Beogram, you could use a BT transmitter with the 9000 headphone connection (which you’d – of course – would have to plug in and out).

        MM

        #51911
        eprokos
        BRONZE Member

          Good idea!!

          I just need a cable to connect from the Beogram to the Beosound 9000 and then to Moment.

          One less problem.

          Then maybe you know a device than can take as an input the output of the Beosound and choose if it streams to Bt or bypass to Moment?

          Thank you

          #51912
          Millemissen
          BRONZE Member
            • Flensborg————Danmark

            You already have the cable needed for connecting the Beogram to the 9000…..unless this was changed!
            It is the normal datalink cable, that is mounted on every BG6500 (DIN 7 pin).

            I do not know of any such device – as said……..plug in and out manually, when needed.
            These BT adapter (transmitter with minijack for the headphone connection) can easily be found online.
            I am not sure how good they are, though!

            MM

            #51913
            eprokos
            BRONZE Member

              You are right. There is the cable.

              So new thought is to connect the 6500 to the 9000 with the integrated cable

              Then from the 9000 to make a cable with two pairs or RCA. One pair to Moment. Second pair to a Bt Transmitter. Is this possible?

               

              Thank you

              #51914
              Guy
              Moderator
                • Warwickshire, UK

                The BS9000 AUX socket can be an input and output at the same time, but at the very least you’d need one of these cables to do both:  https://soundsheavenly.com/bang-olufsen/11-312-7-pin-aux-splitter-dual-aux-tape-input-sockets.html#/20-length-02m

                And then connect from the adaptor’s second socket to your Beosound Core Moment – I am not sure if Sounds Heavenly provide a cable to do this direct because you need the output to come from DIN pins 1 and 4.

                Alternatively you could take an audio output from one of the BS9000’s Powerlink sockets, remembering that the volume will be variable (which might not be a problem if in A.OPT 0, or you are not using an IR remote. )

                #51915
                eprokos
                BRONZE Member

                  Sorry but I got a bit confused 🙂

                  A) connect the beogram 6500 to the https://soundsheavenly.com/bang-olufsen/11-312-7-pin-aux-splitter-dual-aux-tape-input-sockets.html#/20-length-02m

                  B) connect the above splitter to Beosound 9000 in the Aux port

                  C) get the other end of the splitter and connect it to a Bt transmitter

                  D) Get a https://soundsheavenly.com/bang-olufsen/110-329-5-pin-din-to-twin-rca-powerlink-compatible-to-non-bo-hifi-amplifier-receiver-etc-din-to-twin-phono.html#/2-length-1m and connect to the powerlink of BS9000 to the BS Moment

                  correct??

                  #51916
                  Guy
                  Moderator
                    • Warwickshire, UK

                    correct??

                    Yes. This will provide a fixed BS9000 line-level output to the BT transmitter, and a variable output to the Moment (I said Core by mistake earlier, sorry). The only difficulty is making sure that the connector from the splitter to the BT transmitter is from the DIN output pins (1&4) rather than the input pins (3&5). Many people find it easier to use a lead like this which provides both inputs and outputs:  https://soundsheavenly.com/bang-olufsen/154-2336-5-pin-din-to-4-x-rca-input-and-output-cable-for-bo-naim-quad.html#/2-length-1m

                    If there are no Powerlink speakers connected directly to the BS9000, I think you will also need one of these to maintain remote control:  https://soundsheavenly.com/bang-olufsen/141-2309-beosound-9000-speaker-sense-adapter-gives-remote-control-functions-when-no-speakers-are-connected.html#/18-colour-black

                    It is probably worth contacting Steve at Sounds Heavenly to confirm (or otherwise) that my suggestions will work!

                    #51917
                    eprokos
                    BRONZE Member

                      I already emailed him

                      Hope this works 🙂

                      Amazing help, thank you!!

                      #51918
                      Millemissen
                      BRONZE Member
                        • Flensborg————Danmark

                        @Guy

                        The ‘fixed BS9000 line-level output to the BT transmitter’ worries me.
                        How would you control the volume for the headphones in that case?

                        MM

                        #51919
                        eprokos
                        BRONZE Member

                          You are absolutely right, have not thought of that.

                          maybe instead of a transmitter, I need an amp with bt connectivity. But i dont like the idea

                           

                           

                          #51920
                          Guy
                          Moderator
                            • Warwickshire, UK

                            I was thinking that the headphones would be able to control the volume output of the BT transmitter. Perhaps not!

                            Anyway, instead just connect the BS9000’s variable Powerlink output to the BT transmitter, and connect the fixed output (from the adaptor) to the Moment’s line-in.

                            #51921
                            Millemissen
                            BRONZE Member
                              • Flensborg————Danmark

                              I am looking forward to learn how that will work on a daily basis.
                              So, please post the results here.

                              MM

                              #51922
                              eprokos
                              BRONZE Member

                                I was thinking that the headphones would be able to control the volume output of the BT transmitter. Perhaps not! Anyway, instead just connect the BS9000’s variable Powerlink output to the BT transmitter, and connect the fixed output (from the adaptor) to the Moment’s line-in.

                                With the above solution I would not be able to pass to the Moment either the BS9000 or the Beogram6500, right?
                                The level is very important and it is good that it was mentioned here

                                #51923
                                eprokos
                                BRONZE Member

                                  I am looking forward to learn how that will work on a daily basis. So, please post the results here. MM

                                  Me too, cant wait to find a solution too and use it on daily basis.
                                  Of course I will share the results

                                  #51924
                                  eprokos
                                  BRONZE Member

                                    With the following connection diagram:

                                    Beogram 9000 ———> AUX (BS9000)

                                    BS90000 (powerlink) —–>splitter —A—–> Moment

                                    splitter—B—> BT transmitter

                                    the BS9000 can control only the volume of the cd’s not the volume of the Aux?

                                    thank you

                                     

                                    #51925
                                    Guy
                                    Moderator
                                      • Warwickshire, UK

                                      With the following connection diagram:

                                      Beogram 9000 ———> AUX (BS9000)

                                      BS90000 (powerlink) —–>splitter —A—–> Moment

                                      splitter—B—> BT transmitter

                                      the BS9000 can control only the volume of the cd’s not the volume of the Aux?

                                      thank you

                                      The BS9000 will control both the volume of the CD and the volume of the Aux.

                                      However, with this arrangement you have two devices sharing (via the splitter) an identical PL output, hence the inputs of the Moment and BT transmitter are effectively connected in parallel and this may cause interference and/or interfere with the output levels.

                                      EDIT: This thread really needs Steve to comment on the best solution/workaround! I’ll send him a PM.

                                      #51926
                                      Guy
                                      Moderator
                                        • Warwickshire, UK

                                        Guy wrote:
                                        I was thinking that the headphones would be able to control the volume output of the BT transmitter. Perhaps not! Anyway, instead just connect the BS9000’s variable Powerlink output to the BT transmitter, and connect the fixed output (from the adaptor) to the Moment’s line-in.

                                        With the above solution I would not be able to pass to the Moment either the BS9000 or the Beogram6500, right?
                                        The level is very important and it is good that it was mentioned here

                                        My amended solution would pass both BS9000 and BG6500 to the moment. The AUX socket is not just an input – it also works as a continuous line level output of whatever source is playing on the BS9000.

                                        #51927
                                        eprokos
                                        BRONZE Member

                                          Guy wrote: I was thinking that the headphones would be able to control the volume output of the BT transmitter. Perhaps not! Anyway, instead just connect the BS9000’s variable Powerlink output to the BT transmitter, and connect the fixed output (from the adaptor) to the Moment’s line-in. With the above solution I would not be able to pass to the Moment either the BS9000 or the Beogram6500, right? The level is very important and it is good that it was mentioned here

                                          My amended solution would pass both BS9000 and BG6500 to the moment. The AUX socket is not just an input – it also works as a continuous line level output of whatever source is playing on the BS9000.

                                          What do you mean pass both the BS9000 and BG65000 to the moment? how can I do this? and how I can the stream to Bt transmitter?

                                          #51928
                                          Guy
                                          Moderator
                                            • Warwickshire, UK

                                            What do you mean pass both the BS9000 and BG65000 to the moment? how can I do this?

                                            I was answering your question using similar terminology! Perhaps I should have said that my amended solution would pass either BS9000 or BG6500 to the Moment (depending on what source you select on the BS9000, CD or AUX).

                                            and how I can the stream to Bt transmitter?

                                            From the variable Powerlink output, in this amended solution.

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