BeoSound 9000: Torx screw in glass-door hinge stuck ? > SOLVED

[KolfMAKER]

I have a BeoSound 9000, type 2571.

I need to remove the glass door to solve a CD-issue. So I need to loosen the 2 Torx-8 screws in the glass door hinges. The top hinge was easy to loosen, but the Torx screw in the bottom hinge seems very much stuck.

What I have tried:

• Applying WD-40 ‘anti corrosion lock lubricant’.
• Heating the inside of the Torx screw, by inserting the tip of a soldering iron.

Unfortunately, both did not work so far. And I want to be careful not to damage the Torx by putting too much pressure.

Question

Does anyone have experience loosening this stuck Torx screw?

 

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[B&O Orlando]

I’m curious if this screw is not the original. I don’t think I have ever seen a silver screw here – only black. This is only a set screw so it is just threaded into plastic and not metal. With enough torque it should budge, but I wouldn’t want to put too much pressure on the plastic lifter it is threaded into. Tricky.

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[KolfMAKER]

Thanks @B&O Orlando

I think you are right about the color. I took another look and compared the Torx screws from both hinges. The right/upper one (the losse one) is certainly black, and the left/lower one looks grey. So like you said, probably not original.

     

I have let the ‘WD-40 anti corrosion lock lubricant’ do its work overnight, but unfortunately still no movement.
Hopefully I can get a Torx-8 screw driver with a T-handgrip, to get a bit more force. But like you said, it is tricky.

Question

If this doesn’t work, I might have to drill the Torx-screw out, but then also replace the hinge (part) in which it sits.
But:

1. Is this a possibility?
2. Is the hinge part available?
3. About the CD Laser Pickup: the Service Manual mentions ‘CD VAM 1250 from serial no. 15143261’. So this means I need a VAM 1250 for this BeoSound 9000 MK3?

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[matador]

Hi,

I’m not good at physics but would’nt heating the screw make it expand? Would’nt you heat the piece where the screw goes?.

If that piece in in plastic as told by B&O Orlando (I’ve knocked at mine and it may be possible) just an Hairdryer flow should work.

Let us know…

Location: Paris France

[KolfMAKER]

Good point M,

I have been very careful with using the soldering iron, and therefore I am sure nothing has melted.
My main focus has been on trying to get the ‘WD-40 anti corrosion lock lubricant’ to pull in. But with no result so far.

Question

Again, if this doesn’t work, I might have to drill the Torx-screw out, but then also replace the hinge (part) in which it sits.
But:

1. Is this a possibility?
2. Is the hinge part available?
3. About the CD Laser Pickup: the Service Manual mentions ‘CD VAM 1250 from serial no. 15143261’. So this means I need a VAM 1250 for this BeoSound 9000 MK3?

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[matador]

Ignorant and dumb thinking, okay?

0 – Should you have to drill out the screw, it looks like there is room for a bigger screw so you should be okay.
1 – Yes that should be possible and you have nothing to loose.
2 – I’ve seen this part on ebay or any classified ads many times; As usual with indecent prices…
If not, the lower hinge is not as complicated as the top one: it’s just… a hinge. So even if you break it you may be able to replicate it with 3D printing or even a good woodwork from hardwood, not to mention actual metal CNC.
3 – I think MK3 laser are difficult to source. But you should try a deep clean procedure first. If it doesn’t work then it may me a little less cheap.
I’ve successfully replace a MK3 laser with a BS3000 MK1 one. BS3000 MK1 are prone to fry their IC quite fast sot you can find them cheap “sometimes”.
I remember a member from BWII – Maybe Keith – told us about a common Marantz CD player that use the same mech, but my memory is fuzzy.

If  this is becoming too difficult, I suggest you “unglue” the glass door to ease your work: this is something more easy to fix than a broken glass.

In all case BS9000 have to be repaired – as we used to say in France – “Whatever the costs”.

Good luck.

 

 

Location: Paris France

[KolfMAKER]

Dear M.

Thanks so much for your extensive reply; very helpful suggestions!

The good news is that I solved getting the hinge screw loosened!

When taking another and closer look with a magnifier, I got the impression that it wasn’t a Torx screw. So, I just tried an allen key wrench on it, and immediately felt it made a perfect fit with good grip. So, I concluded it wasn’t a Torx screw but an allen key screw.

It was still very much stuck, but I was able to loosen it that much to get the glass panel out!

So this part is solved, thanks for all the help and suggestions: @Matador & @B&O Orlando

By the way, I checked with the owner. He bought the BS9000 brand new, and gad no service or repair on it. So it remains a mystery to have two different screws in the hinges.

 

Laser unit for BS9000

Thanks for the advice. I will first get the existing laser unit out and check which type it is. And then look at your tips for sourcing possibilities .

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[matador]

Hi Kolfmaker,

Happy it was solved but you shouldn’t thank me, because I’m so stupid and so blind: of course thoses are not Torx but Allen screw. I’ve taken out those so many time it should have ring a bell immediatly.

Anyway, the door is off, thats what matters.

Location: Paris France

[KolfMAKER]

Makes 2 of us.
I should have know too.

😉

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[B&O Orlando]

Glad you got that out!

I have had decent but inconsistent success with lasers from eBay. Seems like 1/3 don’t work and need to be sent back. There is a sticker on the Philips CD module that will verify which laser you need – requires some disassembly to get to it.

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[KolfMAKER]

Thanks @B&O Orlando

I did find out in the meantime that the replacement for the BS9000 MKIII, is a VAM1255.
But also I found out that there are not that many available. Some form the US (too far/long shipping time cost) and some in Europe. In the end I ordered at http://www.DKSoundParts.com. They had the right one and reasonable pricing and shipping cost.

 

Curiosity / question

For getting to the sticker on the CD module. Can you give me some direction what should be disassembled?
Can you point put with these pictures?

 

 

 

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