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  • #58858
    Peter
    FOUNDER Member

      I see this Beogram is listed in the index of Beograms. I am afraid it is a fake – I know this as it is mine! It was an old Beogram 6000 quad deck but unfortunately suffered some damage when stored in France when a B&O museum was planned but then didn’t come to fruition. On its return, I gave the quad decoder to a friend and then ‘restored’ the BG6000 – sprayed black with white Letraset markings. Has fooled a number of web sites that have ‘borrowed’ the picture and was an in joke on the old site. The Beomaster 4401 does however exist but they do seem to be prototypes only – having said that I did get mine from Frede and he had made a black Beolab and Beomaster 5000 so that may be a big joke on us! There is however a service manual mentioning the 4401 unlike the BG4001 (which would probably have been a 4003 if it had existed as based on the 4002 platform rather than the 4000!)

       

      #58866
      Guy
      Moderator
        • Warwickshire, UK

        Thanks for the interesting info Peter – I presume that you mean the one described and pictured on the site at this link: https://beoworld.org/beogram-4001/

        #58875
        Multicare
        GOLD Member
          • Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK

          I like your style, I had a quick search for it on google – seems someone is selling a belt for it and someone else a cartridge 😂

          I have removed the model

          Multicare Electronics - Bang & Olufsen classic service centre.
          Repairs and refurbishment to both old and new.
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          #58876
          Peter
          FOUNDER Member

            It is amusing – a number of my pictures on the old Beocentral and Beoworld sites found their way onto other sites so the 4001 seemed like a good enterprise to establish who was taking things! You of course are completely absolved as we put the 4001 on site for exactly that purpose! I may bring it down when I pick up the 4401 (which I am pretty sure is real!) – As you can see, it also has the well known bogus MMC20SH – this was a MMC20S that I had retipped with a Shibata diamond and better cantilever – akin to the MMC5000. I am not sure that I wouldn’t keep it on site to confuse the opposition!

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            #58888
            Multicare
            GOLD Member
              • Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK

              It would be good to see it, I will make sure that I am not out when you drop in.
              Did you manage to have a look around the workshop when you dropped your repairs off?

              if not, I will get you a coffee and give you a tour.

              Multicare Electronics - Bang & Olufsen classic service centre.
              Repairs and refurbishment to both old and new.
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              #58914
              Peter
              FOUNDER Member

                Very kind of you. I think the kind chap on the front desk was still getting his breath back after helping with the M100s! Would be interested to see the workshop though. I do have a few bits not in your product list – the Beogram 3000 Thorens and Beogram 3000 Acoustical (this is now in the hands of another enthusiast). The BG3000 Thorens is probably the best sounding Beogram – mine comes with the 12″ B&O ST/P arm and a bespoke SP2 cartridge. The bass seems far more extended than even my 4000 but it does needs mounting on a isolating wall bracket to get the best out of it. It was designed to be used with the semi professional Beolab 5000 system of the 60s and B&O went to Thorens as their own decks of the time were just not as good. Acoustical is an interesting side note – a Dutch company who supplied their motor unit to B&O for the UK market as I believe Thorens were less than keen that the TD124 was sold in the UK under the B&O brand from what what I understand. Having had both, the Thorens is the better, though that could well be because mine was restored and improved by the inestimable Frede at Classic Audio

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