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  • #52297
    20100
    BRONZE Member

      Hello

      Now that my remote is working 🙂 I decided to try to repair my beosound 1. The problem is quite simple. Most of the time when I put a CD, it starts to spin, then stops with blinking “CD” on the screen and the lid opens. Sometimes (rarely) it works.

      So I used the very useful video I found on this forum. I cleaned the mirror, back of the lens and front of the lens with isopropyl alcohol and put everything back together.

      Unfortunately the problem is still the same. It’s even worse as now it never manages to start reading a CD. So I came to the conclusion that the laser unit is probably dead.

      When I search on the Web I see different references. On my unit was written VAU1255/01 but when I search on the web I also find VAM1255 which seems to be the same (and is cheaper, 26,80 €TTC).

      As I’m not completely sure changing the laser unit will solve the problem I don’t want to spend too much money on this attempt. Do you know if VAM1255 will fit my Beosound one ? If not, where do you advise me to purchase it for a reasonnable price ?

      Thank you. Hope I will be able to help one day on this forum. For the moment I just beg for help…

      #52298
      Guy
      Moderator
        • Warwickshire, UK

        I thought that I was going to be searching for a new laser when I bought a faulty BeoSound 1 three weeks ago. However, I used the Service Mode to run a few checks and the fault seemed to clear – I have tested the CD daily since without problems.

        My post here refers:  https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/what-are-you-working-on-now/page/6/#post-28042

        If you don’t have SHIFT currently on your Beo4, the easy way to enter service mode is to use the buttons on the BS1 control panel and press DELETE DELETE STOP STOP STORE.  Then use the Beo4 to select CD, and then the number of the test listed.

        #52299
        20100
        BRONZE Member

          Hi,

          The last time you gave me ad advice, a miracle occured.

          Unfortunately no miracle this time.

          I did all the checks successfully except start CD that did the same thing. Before the door opens, I hear a little “Tac” as if the lens was touching the disc.

          Tried to gently heat the CD mechanism with a hair dryer (maybe some isopropyl alcohol remaining) but nothing better.

          #52300
          Guy
          Moderator
            • Warwickshire, UK

            Searching back through the archives the only other suggestion for repair is to reflow some of the solder joints on the laser unit – this is a bit vague but I suppose could account for the earlier intermittent fault.

            I too would be very interested to find a definite replacement laser for the BeoSound 1 – hopefully a forum member can point us in the right direction.

            I sent a message to Beoparts last night to ask if their replacement laser here would fit.  The response was as follows:

            Seeing as different CD disc drives were used during production, there is only one
            way to tell, and that is to look at your laser module and compare to the photos
            of our laser module.  They must be identical.

            During my searches I did find a photo showing a VAU1255/21 fitted to a BeoSound 1, but this specific model number seems equally difficult to find!

            #52301
            20100
            BRONZE Member
              #52302
              20100
              BRONZE Member

                Hi,

                Found one today at a special price on Amazon. 38 €. I should receive it by the beginning of february. I’ll keep you informed.

                After further reading, it appears that isoprolyl alcohol was maybe not a good idea on a plastic lens…

                #52303
                20100
                BRONZE Member

                  Hi

                  YESSSSS, just received the new lens assembly, fitted it in my beosound 1, and it immediately came back to life.

                  Thank you all for your help. After the remote, the cd player is back

                  Bye

                   

                  #52304
                  Guy
                  Moderator
                    • Warwickshire, UK

                    Excellent outcome – thanks for letting us know that it worked! ?

                    #56558
                    Guy
                    Moderator
                      • Warwickshire, UK

                      Adding to this earlier thread, I have just bought a third 😀 BeoSound 1 advertised with a faulty CD player.  It’s silver, whereas my other two are Blue and Red, so it’s totally different!

                      Anyway, this new one is SW version 2.5 which means that it is a later model and has the built-in clock and wake-up alarm function.  I hope to fix the CD player, but figured that as an alternative I could take the CD module from one of my other two players and have a fully working Sw2.5 model.

                      It arrived late last week and included the PIN code (now changed).  It’s in pretty good condition and worked well apart from the CD – this would just attempt to play, spin briefly and then eject.  I tried all the CD test modes to see if that freed up the CD mechanism, but to no avail.  Time to dismantle, making full use of the Service Manual.

                      CD unit removed – the hardest part was actually removing the little cover for the LED display – I realised that there are two little clips that can be released from the back when the CD is fully open:

                      IMG_8594

                      (Incidentally whilst open I thought I’d have a look for a backup battery so I opened up the silver cover at the base of the main PCB – no battery visible – perhaps it doesn’t have one?)

                      LATE EDIT:  Whilst re-assembling I took a photo to show those two little clips that will release the little front panel – circled in red in the photo below.  They just need pushing down slightly with a flat bladed screwdriver, and then the front panel rotates outward from the bottom and unclips:

                      IMG_8647

                      I found two immediate faults with the CD mechanism:  Firstly the left hand pivot of the aluminium CD lowering arm had come unclipped from its pivot.  This was easy to move back into place – there is no sign of any missing circlip or whatever so I suppose someone simply dislodged it when trying to fix the CD.  Secondly, the plastic dust cover that sits on top of the laser mechanism was sitting slightly proud of the metal below, such that CDs where rubbing against it as they turned.  You can just see some residual glue that has oozed out from the circular recess – I assume that this was not original B&O hence seems to indicate that someone has attempted to fix in the past.

                      IMG_8596

                      I wondered if the CD rubbing on the plastic had slowed it down and prevented playing, hence removed the plastic dust cover (finding more excessive glue underneath) and re-assembled to test again:

                      IMG_8617

                      It still didn’t work, so I have now stripped down the complete CD mechanism.  I had hoped that the laser (posssibly working) removed from my BC2300 could be used as a replacement, or potentially I could attempt another capacitor replacement.  However, the CD module is actually a VAU1255/21LF (CD Pro2 LF) and as such the laser is incompatible and there are far more capacitors to replace if I want to go down that route, which I don’t!

                      Here’s the laser – sadly the one sold by Beoparts (now: Danish Sound Parts)  in incompatible:

                      IMG_8623

                      And the PCB (for comparison, the CD board in the BC2300 only had six capacitors, hence much less daunting)

                      IMG_8622

                      To be honest, there’s a bit less space between the PCB and the rest of the laser mechanism on this VAU1255, so I would struggle to squeeze regular (rather than SMD) capacitors into the gap.  Also, based upon a limited internet search I think it may well be the laser rather than the capacitors that tends to fail first in the BeoSound 1 – but I may be wrong!

                      So my plan is to find a replacement laser – probably from Amazon like the originator of this thread.  If anyone knows of a reliable UK supplier I’d love to know!

                      To be continued …

                      • This reply was modified 1 day, 8 hours ago by Dillen.
                      #56559
                      Guy
                      Moderator
                        • Warwickshire, UK

                        To add to the above, from reading the service manual I have realised that the plastic dust cover should be held in place by the rubber CD suspension mounts.  These should pull up through the holes in the dust cover on assembly, and hold the complete unit together:

                        Suspension

                        My BS1’s suspension mounts have clearly been cut too low during a bodged repair, and the dust cover secured with glue.  I will have to find an alternative way to secure it when I get to that stage!

                         

                        #56991
                        Guy
                        Moderator
                          • Warwickshire, UK

                          So I have ordered a new laser for the faulty BeoSound 1 – it’s on the way from China and I’ll let you know how I get on.

                          I wanted to start using the new SW2.5 BeoSound 1 with the clock, so I removed the CD mechanism from one of my working SW1.3 (no clock) BeoSound 1s and fitted it in the new one – despite being a slightly different CD module (VAU1255/01 rather than VAU1255/21LF, it works well.  When swapping the laser modules I was careful to keep the display module (PCB3) with the original main board to avoid any SW incompatibility or Pin Code conflicts.

                          Here’s the working mechanism that I moved:

                          IMG_8632

                          The ‘donor’ BeoSound 1 now needs a good internal clean – a job for tomorrow:

                          IMG_8630

                          #57100
                          Guy
                          Moderator
                            • Warwickshire, UK

                            The new laser arrived a few days ago while I was distracted with my ‘new’ BeoSound Essence.

                            Here’s the one that I ordered – one of the cheapest on Amazon and when I ordered I was given a further £2.62 discount for some reason, hence total of £30.12 with free postage from deepest China.  It arrived in just six days.

                            https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0D2D47SR8

                            I have just fitted it, using the helpful guide here: https://encosystems.net/instructions/cd-pro-2-with-opu2-vau-125411-31-31lf/

                            I put the re-assembled CD module back in the freshly cleaned ‘donor’ BeoSound 1 shown above and … it works perfectly!

                            Fitting was straightforward, only two things of note:  Firstly, the two small screws holding the white nylon sledge guidance plan had stripped threads – luckily I manage to find some suitable replacements in the garage.  This re-confirms a previous badly executed repair.  Secondly I noticed a slight difference in the new laser module.  The faulty module has a small metal spring that is designed to press against the metal sledge guidance shaft.  You can make out the spring in this picture:

                            IMG_8641

                            Whereas the new module has no such spring – picture shows sledge guidance shaft inserted:

                            IMG_8642

                            The anomaly doesn’t seem to effect CD playback so far but I will test and monitor.  By the way, I didn’t lubricate either guidance shaft or cog mechanism – just left it all as it was.

                            A final picture showing the laser module in place before I replaced the retaining clips:

                            IMG_8644

                            I still haven’t replaced the CD dust cover to I need to find a way to fix that securely to the top of the CD mechanism, and the CD module suspension is still not secure, so unless I can find a fix I will have to be careful to keep the Beosound upright at all times.

                            #57107
                            Guy
                            Moderator
                              • Warwickshire, UK

                              I re-fitted the dust cover today, using small dabs of super glue gel at the right hand end (other side from laser) and found two small screws to hold down the left hand side where it had previously been sitting proud and rubbing the CD.  Screws circled in red below (only one visible) – these weren’t there before, I think by design because the rubber suspension mounts should actually hold the cover down if they hadn’t been cut off too short.  You can also see the glue below from a previous owner’s repair, in the hole from which the rubber suspension mounts should extend:

                              IMG_8646

                              All is re-assembled now and CD plays nicely without rubbing.

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