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  • #41149
    Dillen
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    B: I think this was only used for bakelite models that were also available in a wooden cabinet. At present I can only think of Master 41K/41B

    U: Universal (suitable for both DC and AC mains)

    CH: Chartol

    K: I think is for Kabinet (cabinet housed) – usually with built-in speaker. I believe this is a leftover from when many radios were also available as chassis’ only

    S: Used mainly for console models. S could be for Stรฅende (Standing) or solitair

    RG: Radiogramophone (radio/gramophone combination)

    RGS: Standing Radiogramophone

    BRG: Bord-Radiogramophone (tabletop-radiogram)

    P: I think is for Papir-isolation (paper-insulated leads – due to WW2 material shortages)

    Martin

    #41150
    geoffmartin
    BRONZE Member

    Martin to the rescue! Mange tak!

    Mvh
    -geoff

    #41151
    matador
    Moderator

    Martin, what is “Chartol”, please?

    Location: Paris France
    #41152
    geoffmartin
    BRONZE Member

    Hmmm… my assumption about the “B” designation and your comment made me do a little more digging. We might both be wrong.. For example:

    Here’s the Master 41-B “Klangbund” in Bakelite:

    000114_22_10_kk_front

    But this is a Mini 510-B – definitely not Bakelite…

    000125_22_10_kk_front

    I’ll have to check tomorrow, but I think that one of the “Byggemรธbler” components is a ย Type Grand Prix 606 B” which is, of course, wood.

    I’m starting to think that B stands for many things. Too bad I can’t find a “A”, which would make the task simpler… ๐Ÿ˜€

     

    #41153
    AdamS
    GOLD Member

    Looking at the two pictures, ‘B’ could stand for ‘Brown’!

     

     

    #41154
    Dillen
    Moderator

    In the Master 41 service manual, where the versions B, K , S and RG are covered,
    the B is mentioned as the model housed in bakelite.
    Of course there must be another explanation for the 510B etc.

    S is mentioned as a “konsolskab” (Skab = cupboard or closet), so a console model.

    “Klangbund” is not really a part of the model name.
    The Klangbund (“Soundboard”) is a type of passive radiator for low frequencies, working on what B&O described as an “elastic pillow” of air between the speaker cone and the radiator.
    In fact it is the back plate of the receiver, and it’s a (relatively) airtight cover, that will “play along” with the bass (read: deepest notes) using a wall behind the receiver as reflector.

    Try listening to it if you get a chance, it actually works.

    Martin

    #41155
    artig
    BRONZE Member

    Martin, what is โ€œChartolโ€, please?

    I’m not Martin, but Chartol (usually spelled Chatol) could be translated as a writing desk, escritoire or secretaire. Usually with lockable compartments and a fold-down or pull-outย  writing surface. Often used as a home office before working from home or computers were a ‘thing’.

    #41156
    Dillen
    Moderator

    Chatol of course.

    Martin

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