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Not sure if you’ve looked at the Beosound Theatre – Technical information thread, but Steve has posted a link to the B&O spreadsheet that has been circulating around. It shows some functionality testing that B&O have done with various brand TVs, including a Phillips OLED.
Not sure if the testing scenarios are as comprehensive as you may ideally require, but its worth a look and may give you an idea of what is possible with the BR1 + Theatre + Phillips.
good question, I’ve asked this before, and never quite been confident in the answers given.
Part of the reason is that seemingly very few require the scenario you describe (although like you, I use that audio sharing reasonably often). Both of my current BV’s are on the same B&O platform version as yours.
When the Eclipse came out, and I asked this question, I was told by a couple of respondents that the older menu / settings option of “share audio from video sources” was not there anymore.
My dealer (though I havent asked the q again for a while) last said to me it was possible – but I’m hesitant. While he (if I remember) can get it to work in the store, I think that is for internal video sources (like a YT video from the Eclipse LG YT app) – but I’d want to see it also work for video sources connected via HDMI.
I’m popping in to my dealer on Friday, so I’ll see what I can test out myself on the newer BV’s.
I’ve spent a hour or so with the Theatre at my dealers, albeit not listening with 100% critical concentration…and I didn’t notice any muffling issues myself.
I’d run the microphone calibration and then see if you notice anything.
Mike (the podcast host) has had his at home for a few days now, and he’s not notice any such issues.
Sticky thread is a great idea.
I imagine we’ll also get software patches / bug fixes quite regularly over the coming year.
So perhaps part of that thread can log the issues fixed / resolved as these roll out.
oh lord, hope that doesn’t apply to the (rare) occasion I have appeared on it!
If so, apologies.
isn’t the ethernet port marked TV intended for that connection (between Theatre and TV)?
I’m pretty sure that will still be the connection path for LGs paired to the Theatre, but good question about whether that needs to be the same connection for other brands.
It certainly looked like this years C series in the instal video that I watched, i.e. an LG.
congratulations!
What TV are you going to use with it?
Guessing an LG, but just asking…
congratulations, what spec did you go for, if you dont mind me asking?!
Hmmm…..is it the following?
Row 3. Beosound Theatre switches TV off at standby – I think this is asking whether the TV in question switches off if the Theatre is idle and goes into standby i.e theatre inactivity also shuts the Tv off.
Row 5. Beosound Theatre switches the TV off (use Beoremote One or app to select standby) – I think this is asking whether the TV in question switches off if the Theatre is put into standby by one of the Beoremote / B&O app….i.e. does the TV in question react to a B&O standby command.
Looking at lots of those rows / scenarios, there are subtle differences between them, though I conceded its not super clear.
sure but the Stage will never gain the ability to use other Mozart speakers as surrounds with TV/Movies.
Why would they even do that, even if they could.
What will a Mozart version of the Stage bring you?
Just asking, not presuming……
Ordered my Theatre today, and 77 inch LG G2.
Will wall mount the basic 55 Theatre with wood lamellas (above my floating cabinet), and separately wall / flush mount the LG G2 77, with some separation between the two. Will live with it for a while, and then see if any extension / widening wings are needed to improve the aesthetics of the setup.
No additional parts required – i.e no Theatre VESA interface, not floor stand, so just the price of the 2 separate elements. While that configuration may not suit all, its what I’ve always wanted (configuration wise), and saves quite a lot vs other configuration options. The VESA interface / motorised stands are expensive and really raise the piece of those types of setups.
Elsewhere, the lack of HDMI Matrix integration is far from ideal. The workaround is liveable though – by using the one matrix output that arrives in my living room for my main matrix connected source, SKY Q set top box, I can use the BR1 to control the SKY box through the Theatre, as that single matrix connection will carry PUC commands back to the matrix. This direct matrix connection will go into the Theatre HDM 2, plus a PUC connection.
The lack of Matrix integration means that any other sources need to be local. I will put an ATV 4K locally now connected into Theatre HDMI 3, and a PUC between them will also allow the BR1 to control it.
That covers 85% of my use cases by source. On the odd occasion when I want to use the BR player or PS5, it will require using the matrix iPhone app to switch sources sent down the pipe to the Theatre, and no BR1 control is then possible (obviously not an issue with my PS5).
Anyway, forgive the long post, but at least (subject to wood lamellas colour choice to come), I’m now done – for my living room, where the BV12-65 will get replaced by the above. Next year, I will change my bedroom Avant 55 to a Theatre 55.
One of the UK websites has pricing options and some transparency.
55 Theatre 5390 GBP
77 Theatre 6190 GBP
so 800 GBP difference for the larger version
Same as the wood cover (vs the grey cloth) – an extra 800 GBP.
hmm not clear – my guess is that if you ordered a 77 inch version, you’d get one package / box for the standard Theatre, and that would include the small 55 inch wings….and a separate package containing the 77 inch wings. Thats my best guess.
That said the spec sheet suggests not (though we know spec sheets are often not 100% correct)
The spec sheet says
WHAT IS IN THE BOX:
Beosound Theatre including 55” or 65” or 77” Side Wings
Can interpret that spec sheet wording in different ways, but my guess is as above….you get the 55 wings whatever size you order, and in addition the 65 / 77 wings in a separate box if that what was specified at time of purchase.
Apologies you’re right, having watched again more closely!
That IR plaster end was the end that sits (usually taped / fixed) to the peripheral unit i.e Sky box, Blu Ray player etc….the other end, that goes in the Theatre, is the usual PUC cable end. Business as usual.
Regarding 50s or 90s, I listened to both at my dealer.
Though the 90s were never a realistic option for me, just a touch too big for my living room.
They’re a different beast to the 50s of course, and simply incredible. But the 50s, whilst different, are also pretty special.
For me, I wanted speakers that would allow me to wallow in music properly, and much better than the 18s that I had before (which were in themselves, and with other rear speakers etc) very good for movies. But my focus is more on music now, and whilst 50s too were a lot of money, I wanted something which would be my last ever speakers. So in that context, zero regrets.
I love that with both 50s and 90s, I could very easily let them share duties with my Beovison, because of the various / multiple connection options. My BV is connected to the 50s for tv / movies via usual power link connections. But my music chain (Linn streamer/DAC and turntable) are connected directly to the 50s, bypassing the Beovison, via RCA.
Its a best of both worlds setup, and I wouldnt have any other way.
If I had a larger living space, I probably would have opted for the 90s though – not only for sonic reasons, but also their design in more distinctive. The 50s design isn’t as strong, but with the aluminium fronts and smoked oak frets, they can be dressed up to look pretty fancy too.
You’d be very happy with either to be honest.
So that should break down something like this no?
Theatre 6490
Oak Grill 1o00
77 inch wings 1000
Motorised Floor Stand 2800
VESA interface 800-1000
That I think is the broad breakdown of the elements, and gets you to around 12300, and the BR1 probably gets you to the near 13,000 euro price.
As the TV experience, i.e the setup you’ve got, its very expensive no doubt.
If one goes for the separate wall mounting option (not the motorised wall bracket), the 2800 and the 1000 interface costs are saved…..so that setup becomes more reasonable. Of course, not everyone will want / can do the latter….but just illustrates that cost can very quite a bit depending on configuration chosen.
Nice choice though, the anthracite and dark oak looks extremely nice.
Thanks for the post, and your impressions more or less match mine, when I heard the Theatre on Sunday.
I have 50s as left and right front speakers, and am used to a very wide (some would say massive) soundstage. And coming from that starting point, and desire, listening to the Theatre on its own the soundstage, while noticeably bigger than the Eclipse (for example), was not wide enough for me.
It is wide enough though, and good enough, to me that I can see that starting with the Theatre alone, the first sensual addition is for rear speakers rather than adding front l/r. That to me is the difference between the Theatre (as sound centre) and the Eclipse (or other prior BV’s) where the first addition would clearly be front l/r speakers.
But like you, music is much more important to me, so the 50s up front will remain, and will continue to be fed directly (via RCA) by my Linn streamer/DAC and turntable.
Good luck with your setup though – sounds mighty capable, whether you put your upcoming 28s besides the Theatre up front, or as rears. My experience of that setup – the triangle, with 28s as rears, and Theatre only top front, was extremely good.
it does indeed help, thanks very much.
Very well written too, and even a dumb dumb like me understood the piece!
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