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beautiful shot of your BM8000 and BG8000. Unapologetically 80s.
Thanks! I actually made an early transition to fully digital in the 80’s and already back to partially analog in the early 90’s because of the horrificly “remastered” early CD’s. Luckily never got rid of my LP’s, so I still had a comparison. Now fully analog, at least regarding my serious listening habits. Switched my BL9 against MC102.2 (.2 because of the binding posts ;-))
Hard to try the BG8002 without lid, will test the BG4002.
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Yes, I came across it, also actually posted it already 🙂
Like Glitch, I’m missing the loudness level as this seems crucial to me. Anyway, I’m not wondering about the lid up / lid closed difference (if down is bad, up is even worse, following the same logic), but about lid closed or off. According to Pro-ject it’s off = good, on = bad and up = worse.
We can also leave the whole cable alchemy discussion to the “audio files” (like that neologism) although there might be a difference between signal transportation for active and passive speakers, I just dig fat nicely braided cables for optical reasons. IMHO, the stereotypical B&o customer nowadays, I’m afraid, is primarily wealthy, his audio gear just part of the furniture selected by the interior designer. Guys spending their time in forums like this one are no longer the target audience but mostly old gear owners, a rare breed in extinction. B&o never was cheap stuff, rightly so, rather middle/upper class, but today they don’t match neither much my taste, nor my budget. They should have kept a high quality analog, down-to-earth line in their portfolio including a record deck < € 10 k! 😉
The slant design theory is also interesting, I always thought it was just due to the Zeitgeist…
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Ha, ha, sure, it gives me goosebumps with or without hood just by looking at it! My furniture is anechoic and because of my fabulously furry body, I’m a nude listener. You are also right in not taking audio too seriously, unlike other forums. But I’m still interested to know whether these sound waves hit the pickup having an impact on the sound quality or not and I was hoping to get some experts’ opinion. I can hardly believe this topic never popped up in the B&O community.
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I get your point, have two dogs too but the odds are low to get their hair on a spinning record 🙂 Clothes are normally the biggest hair-traps. Dust is worse for the vinyl and more widespread, I think.
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Yes, I did, but accidentally, as the tonearm cover scrubbed slightly against the inside of the aluminum made lower section of the lid. I felt I noticed a difference and therefore did some internet research. I was rather surprised but it looks like for the overwhelming part of the audiophile crowd, record listening with the hood on is sacrilege. I will give it another try tomorrow, I don’t follow the (acoustic-) science anyway, but my ears. A nice hinged lid is a cost factor so that’s probably also an understandable reason for omitting it.
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Hey Matador,
Well, that’s a very beophile answer! I live in a wooden house, but indeed, each “obstacle” in the room has an effect on the sound, but these audiophiles were mainly referring to the effect on the pickup, I believe. See: https://pro-jectusa.com/2024/03/22/should-i-play-records-with-the-dust-cover-down/
B&o lids are an integral part of the design and – to my knowledge – mostly hinged and as such not meant to be removed for listening. I think, Jensen und co. did their research too… The 400x series also look nice without lid, though!
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Now, that’s good to know, thanks again MM! I was wondering why these tiny holes seemed threaded.
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Hey you friendly folks, Millesmissen was right, the two “upper” pins are missing. Clipped out, it seems, I can see the holes left. So I guess it’s only a minor operation.
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When I plugged the BG7000 into the phono socket of the BM5500 I could immediately hear that there was something wrong (two RIAA amps) but that wasn’t the case when plugging it into the BM6500, no distortions at all. On the other hand, when I plug it into the CD socket, there’s no sound at all.
However, if I really was so unlucky to get one of these special BM6500; do you think that a skilled B&O service technician is able to build the BM6500 back to its “original” state? I’ve planned to have one of my BM7000 overhauled anyway…
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Hi and thanks for the welcome and the quick reply. I used to be a member before but had to open a new account since I probably messed up something transferring to the new page 🙂
I didn’t even check that, since I have two more BG7000/BM7000 combos that work. Do you mean that somebody could have clipped the data pins or replaced the 7 wire cable. Possible, will check this evening. But – why should anybody do that? Maybe for the use with a non-B&O amp?
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