[Andre Bolhoeve]

Madskp wrote:

Andre Bolhoeve wrote:

The Speakers is the rooms are pasive. What i do not onderstand is that it used to work. you could adjust the sound individualy in the rooms. And what does the MCL2AV actualy do?

Unless there are any hidden components that we do not see I can not figure out how that would have worked. The MCL2AV can convert the amplified speaker level signal in the MCL system to a line level signal that can be volume regulated. This however only works for the powerlink outputs on the MCL2AV thus requirering the use of Active speakers or an amplifier between the MCL2AV and passive speakers. If passive speakers are connected directly to its passive speaker ports it works just a the MCL2A relay box without individual volume control.

thanks so far.

can I replace the MCL2A one at a time. for a MCL2AV on the same wire with active speakers. wil that room than be individualy from the others ?

[Andre Bolhoeve]

The Speakers is the rooms are pasive.

What i do not onderstand is that it used to work.

you could adjust the sound individualy in the rooms.

 

And what does the MCL2AV actualy do?

[Andre Bolhoeve]

Madskp wrote:

Andre Bolhoeve wrote:

I just bougt this house. I think there was a bV 7 where I placed the 9000. And an other tv in a other room. When i placed the 9000 i had onley sound from 5 rooms there was no linkcabel connected to the nl/mcl unit. the volume worked undepended in the 5 rooms. they adviced me to place the splitter and connect the link cabel also to the nl/mcl unit. It looked like it worked. but the next day the sound was going up and down at the same time in all the rooms. Even when i restored it and disconnected the link cabel from the nl/mcl

Ok this explains some of the confussion with this system. I have a feeling that this may have been connected differently years ago and then have been upgrade. Probably the Beolink passive and the ML-MCL box was not part of it to begin with (these two amplifier boxes are by the way the same, just with different naming and type numbers).

Andre Bolhoeve wrote:

I wil try to disconnect the powerlink conection tomorrow. and see what happened.

I think that will be a good start as there should not be any ring connction between the units, and the MCL system after the amplifier boxes should work independently of each other.

Andre Bolhoeve wrote:

There is one thing that i noticed today. The MLC2AV makes a hhhhhssssssssss sound for about 15 secondens when powerd up then this stops. i disconected the power from the MLC2AV for now. To be save. the sound stil will go up and down in al rooms with the MLC2AV disconected from power

I would not suspect that in the first place

First I waned to thank you and everyone for there thoughts and input

I have made some adjustments. as advised, i removed the dely box and disconected the powerlink conection.

I made a new diagram.

What i have now:

When i Disconect the masterlink cabel from the beolink passive. with the powerlink conection in place the 9000 wil start go to radio cd or aux with the remote on all ir but I have only sound in room 1. the sound in room 1 wil go up and down from all the rooms.

If I disconect the powerlink conection and conect the masterlink to the beolink passive. In room one the sound wil opperate seperetly from the other rooms. I think this one is conected to the NL/MCL
The other 5 room stil act the same the sound wil go up and down equelly.

I think they are connected to the beolink passive.

so only room one is now individual from the others

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[Andre Bolhoeve]

Madskp wrote:

Hi again Wow that is somewhat complicated, and I guess that you could have misread some connections between things, but this give a better picture of what you are dealing with. Like Guy I also wonder what the purpose of the orange wire is, and if it is actually connected to the MCL2E in the other end? The MCL2E is an extender that is used when there is more than 4 zones in a MCL sytem, and I wonder if it is nessecary the way your system seems to be divided with two amplifiers. But I would leave it for now so you don’t make to many changes. Have you recently done any unplugging of cables on the 1655? Could it have been a cable that should go into the IR port instead? Like guy suggest I would also try to power down the system, remove that cable and start it up again to see how things react. The three grey boxes shown in the lover left corner are MCL2A and so is the first box after the 1551. These are as mentioned earlier just relay boxes to activate speakers and will follow the volume of the amplifier, so I will suspect that some of your zones has had the same volume control all the time. I will asume that some of the MCL2A boxes are connected to the red wire from the 1655. The IR eyes connect to the MCL2A and MCL2AV boxes to control them. It is the thin grey wire going into them. So every room should have a IR eye and a grey box (MCL2A or MCL2AV). Also I wonder what the deal is with the ML delay box? are there other Masterlink components that we do not see from these drawings?

I just bougt this house. I think there was a bV 7 where I placed the 9000. And an other tv in a other room.

When i placed the 9000 i had onley sound from 5 rooms there was no linkcabel connected to the nl/mcl unit. the volume worked undepended in the 5 rooms. they  adviced me to place the splitter  and connect the link cabel also to the nl/mcl unit. It looked like it worked. but the next day the sound was going up and down at the same time in all the rooms. Even when i restored it and disconected the link cabel from the nl/mcl

I wil try to disconnect the powerlink conection tomorrow. and see what happened.

There is one thing that i noticed today. The MLC2AV makes a hhhhhssssssssss sound for about 15 secondens when powerd up then this stops. i disconected the power from the MLC2AV for now. To be save. the sound stil wil go up and down in al rooms with the MLC2AV disconected from power

[Andre Bolhoeve]

Thank you so much. I will try this tomorow

[Andre Bolhoeve]

I have made a diagram of how it is connected This is how far i could follow it.

I think most is there. i think from there it will go to the boxes in the rooms.

I hope this wil help to find the problem

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[Andre Bolhoeve]

Thanks for the input.

it used to work fine. bus sinds yesterday no more.

There is a beolink passive “a big black box”

and smalles gray boxes in every room. i think the ir and speakers connect to them

let me know what you think

I appricated the help

[Andre Bolhoeve]

they are the rectangular ones

 

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