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    Peter Vaessen
    BRONZE Member

      Dear all.

      Thank you for all the great information. Really helpfull for hobbying with all the Bang and Olufsen possibilities gives us long term.

      After reading relevant posts I could not really find the solution for my new setup. Therefore, I am hoping for some expert knowledge.

      I had this fully wired ML setup:

      • BL7-55MKII in option 2 with speakers
      • BL9000 MKII sw 2.1 in option 0 without speakers. Chromecast Audio as A.AUX/TAPE/PHONO input for Audio Streaming distribution.
      • 2 BV’s6-26 9290 (HDMI version) in kitchen and bedroom
      • BLGW linked parallel in the ML chain
      • Bought a BLC together with the BLWG for future use, but was not using it

      Last week I bought a Essence MKII together with another BLC. My first steps in the NL/Multiroom world!

      First install:

      • added the BLC to the ML in parallel like the BLGW and wired it to the NL network
      • added the Essence to the same NL network without speakers and without IR eye
      • linked the Essence to the BLC in the Beo App
      • setup the BLC as AudioMaster as this was the only way to distribute audio over ML
      • discovered all devices in the BLGW and added the BLC and Essence as Networklink products in de BLGW with all Essence resources visible

      As expected this gave problems because the BS9000 was already the dedicaded AudioMaster and is not programmable otherwise. Result: the commands RADIO, CD and A.MEM(/A.AUX/N.MUSIC/N.RADIO) started the sources on the BS9000 and not the Essence resources.

      Simply turning off the BS9000 is a workaround for this. That is actually my current setup.

      But I really like to use the BS9000 instead of only looking at as a work of art.

      My next try to get it working:

      • linked the BS9000 with ML to the BLC, no direct connection with the ML network anymore
      • BLC wired to the NL network
      • BLC setup as A.SLAVE

      Result was that I could start BS9000 from the NL side (Beo APP, Beo Living APP), but the ML devices did not react anymore and therefore no audio distribution to ML.

      Now I am puzzled and in need for some expert knowledge if there is another solution.

      My best guess from all the information is to link the BV7-55 directly to another BLC. The BV7-55 resources will be visible in NL and vica versa the BS9000 resources are visible for the BV7-55 as if they are NL recources.

      If this best guess is the solution, I still have additional questions:

      • BLC BV7-55 as Audiomaster or VideoMaster?
      • BS9000 as VideoMaster or AudioMaster?
      • Or both as A.SLAVE or both as Source Centre?
      • Which Product by Apps should the BLC control? (VideoMaster, AudioMaster or even the Beosound Essence)

      Hope all is clear enough to give your thoughts.

      Looking forward to your feedback.

      #62299
      Madskp
      GOLD Member
        • Location: Denmark

        My best guess from all the information is to link the BV7-55 directly to another BLC. The BV7-55 resources will be visible in NL and vica versa the BS9000 resources are visible for the BV7-55 as if they are NL recources.

        This could be a solution, but do you know that the BS9000 might be upgraded to a newer software that supports N.music and N.Radio from another source instead of using it’s own AUX connection?

        This thread https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beosound-9000-type-252x-from-april-1996-software-update/ mention something about which type numbers can have which software version, and there is also a guide on how to perform the upgrade.

        I have no experience with this myself, but I think that might make it more simple to make your system work the way you want

        #62306
        Carolpa
        BRONZE Member

          This could be a solution, but do you know that the BS9000 might be upgraded to a newer software that supports N.music and N.Radio from another source instead of using it’s own AUX connection? This thread https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/topic/beosound-9000-type-252x-from-april-1996-software-update/ mention something about which type numbers can have which software version, and there is also a guide on how to perform the upgrade.

          If f.e. a BS9000 is connected to a BLC in  a NL setup it doesn’t have to be compatible for N.Music/N.Radio.

          If this best guess is the solution, I still have additional questions: BLC BV7-55 as Audiomaster or VideoMaster? BS9000 as VideoMaster or AudioMaster? Or both as A.SLAVE or both as Source Centre? Which Product by Apps should the BLC control? (VideoMaster, AudioMaster or even the Beosound Essence)

          I would make/try the next setup.

          first BLC – setup as AMaster – ML connect the BV7 and all other ML stuff (except the BS9000) (give BLC name f.e. BV7 blc)/
          second BLC – setup as ASlave – ML connect the BS9000 (no speakers attached) (give BLC name f.e. BS9000 blc and the CD the name “BS9000 cd”).
          connect the Essense mkII to the same network

          set te tab “sources visible to ML” in 1st BLC (BV7 blc) :  set “NL product name” to “BS9000 blc”, “NL source” to “BS9000 cd” and set on the “IR mapping” tab the same for “CD”.

          Result: the BS9000 cd should be possible to start on the Essense with the B&o app and with the CD command on the BV7.

          Note: you can not install or have a second source which should start with the CD command in this system (ML can only handle one)

          #62307
          Madskp
          GOLD Member
            • Location: Denmark

            If f.e. a BS9000 is connected to a BLC in  a NL setup it doesn’t have to be compatible for N.Music/N.Radio.

            Agree, but the system can be made with only one BLC NL/ML

            #62319
            Peter Vaessen
            BRONZE Member

              All solved now. Thank you so much for your feedback!

              My first end second try was only one way (all ML > BLC > NL) or the other way (only BS9000 ML > BLC > NL). This step is the both ways and that did the trick.

              Now all works as I like it to be and as it should be for regular users like my family members. I could even source the BS9000 Radio source to N.RADIO (just for fun).

              I was aware of the N.RADIO/N.MUSIC sw problem. But if the BS9000 is out of the ML chaink as Audiomaster, like it is now, all BV’s are new enough to work around that. Also the chips with later sw is only for sale for the BS9000 MKIII as far as I am aware of.

              Also interesting to know, the IR mapping of each BLC is only for the BLC itself. As I am not using the IR eye, those settings are obsolute untill you attach an IR eye.

              Those BLC’s are pretty nice devices once you get them to know. Will try find some extra ones. Especially for linking a future BLI to the BLGW, but maybe also to make all current sources visible as networklink sources in the ML devices in the BeoLiving app.

              Thank you again.

              Kind regards, Peter

               

               

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