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I have a BV 4-50 D10 panel working with a BeoSystem 3 MK II. I plan to exchange the BSys 3 with a BSys 4. I found two older threads mentioning that there are cables available for the connection of the BSys 4 to the BV panel. Or they may be made by one self, which is beyond my capability. It had not been specified which cables, which manufacturers those cables provide and where to get them. So I kindly ask for your support in answering the following questions:
– Which cables do I need to connect the monitor control and the IR from the BSys 4 to the panel (article or order numbers would be nice 🤗) and where can I get them?
– Is it possible to connect my DVD 2 to the BSys 4 and how?
If someone is using this set-up or a similar one and has made the same endeavour happen, it would be nice and helpful to receive the experience made.
Kind regards,
Rolf
P. S.: In parallel, I contacted B&O customer support and I am waiting for them getting back to me. I will of course share what information they provide.
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Ah, I guess I should have placed this topic under „BeoSystem“.
@Multicare: Please, move it there, if this would be the right place, thank you.Location: GermanyFavourite Product: It is obvious ….My B&O Icons:
In the Beolink Handbook ver. 2.1 (available in the Beotech section) the whirring for the IR eye for both Bsys 3 and 4 is shown for IR eye’s bot with and without auto contrast. From what I can you should be able to replace the existing cable in the IR eye with a standard network cable instead following the whirring diagrams in the Beolink handbook.
Also in the Beolink handbook is the part numbers for the two types of 9 pin mini DIN to start cable. There is both one with a Female and a male scart. part numbers in the screenshot below:
@Madskap: Thanks a lot for the link to the respective thread. I will check with my dealer, if this cable will be still available. If not, maybe Steve can help. From my experience, the DVD 2 needs both connections, HDMI and Scart. The BSys 3 seems to connect them together automatically, if you choose the right connection plugs (in my case HDMI-In 3 and Scart 3). I do not know, if the BSys 4 does put the mini-AV and HDMI „XY“ automatically together, very likely not.
Edit: I tried to „quote“ but could not submit it successfully?
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@Millemis: The cable from B&O can be found on the internet, e. g. a swedish seller. I would prefer to by at my dealer, which I will check, or maybe Steve can lend a hand. As mentioned before, the DVD 2 will need both connections, HDMI and Scart.Location: GermanyFavourite Product: It is obvious ….My B&O Icons:
@Madskap: Thanks again for hinting me to the Beolink handbook. Did not think about that. The panel has a built in IR receiver, so I prefer to establish a direct connection between the BSys and the panel for IR control. There is also a specific cable for connecting the BSys 3 (Monitor control) and the panel. In this case I would need a rj-45 to DSUB9 cable for connecting to the BSys 4. I can find one from Panasonic on the internet, but it seems to be available on the Japanese market only, and I do not know, if it will be the right one.
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Here are the answers of the B&O support:
“You can use a HDMI to DVI-D cable to connect the Beosystem 4 to the Beovision 4-50. However, it’s not possible to connect the Beomedia 1.
If you would like to connect DVD 2 to the Beosystem 4, it is possible via the HDMI connector, however, the controls will be limited.“
In regard to the direct IR connection BSys 4 to panel:
„We would be glad to confirm that you would require an IR blaster, which can be purchased at a nearby B&O Store: https://stores.bang-olufsen.com/en/search. You can see the attached manual and example showing a projector, which is also applicable to any 3rd party device display connected to Beosystem 4.“
I answered back to them and asked them to precisely answer my questions, because the last answer is not helpful and does not clarify, if there is a cable for direct connection or not. Also, they did not answer, if there is a cable available for Monitor control, and if so, what kind of cable, and from whom and where to get it.
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Another thought:
My BSys 3 has the following sources connected:
– BeoMedia 1
– iPort 23 Sound Dock
– DVD 2
– IP TV Set-Top-Box
– ATV III
The first two it will not be possible to get connected to the BSys 4, the third one maybe. Set-Top-Box and ATV III will get connected to HDMI-In and PUC.
I am thinking of connecting the BSys 3 as external source to the HDMI-In of the BSys 4. The question will be, how to start the sources connected to the BSys 3, once it is selected via BSys 4? The BeoMedia 1 would have to be started via external IR eye, the iPort directly at the connected iPhone and the DVD 2 I am not quite sure?
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Madskp wrote:Rolf2 wrote:
@Madskap: Thanks a lot for the link to the respective thread. I will check with my dealer, if this cable will be still available. If not, maybe Steve can help. From my experience, the DVD 2 needs both connections, HDMI and Scart. The BSys 3 seems to connect them together automatically, if you choose the right connection plugs (in my case HDMI-In 3 and Scart 3). I do not know, if the BSys 4 does put the mini-AV and HDMI „XY“ automatically together, very likely not.
I just tested on my Beoplay V1 (that is based on the Bsys 4 platform), and I am not able to setup a connection where I combine the AV socket with a HDMI socket, so I guess you would depend on using the analog video signal for the DVD2 if you want to be able to control it with the remote.
Thank you for testing! I tried to connect the DVD 2 to my BV 10-46, which is in principle a „lower spec“ BSys 3 with LCD / LED panel, and it did not work together well. You could see the picture in a bad quality, and no sound was available. So I already guessed, that the BSys 4 will no longer have the capability for this „old stuff“. Good to get confirmation now, even if another result would suit the case better.
Rolf2 wrote:
@Madskap: Thanks again for hinting me to the Beolink handbook. Did not think about that. The panel has a built in IR receiver, so I prefer to establish a direct connection between the BSys and the panel for IR control. There is also a specific cable for connecting the BSys 3 (Monitor control) and the panel. In this case I would need a rj-45 to DSUB9 cable for connecting to the BSys 4. I can find one from Panasonic on the internet, but it seems to be available on the Japanese market only, and I do not know, if it will be the right one.
Ok so does that mean that the IR has a separate cable between the BV4 and Bsys 3? In that case a converter cable could bed made, but probably as a DIY solution if the Pinout can be detected.
Yes, exactly, there are two specific cables from B&O for connecting the BSys 3 and the BV 4-50 panel, giving direct IR- and Monitor control. In an old thread a user refers to those converter cables, which at that time could be purchased from the B&O dealer or made as a DIY solution. I am not able to manufacture such a cable by myself. Additionally, I would need the Monitor control cable.
Rolf2 wrote:
BeoMedia 1
The Beomedia 1 could probably be connected via a VGA to HDMI adapter. Note that there are simple cable adapter for the other way, but in this case It has to be one that converts the analog signal til digital. I can see that some of them also can get sound from the “PC” to HDMI.
For control as you mention yourself an external IR eye, and then setup the HDMI connection on the Bsys 4 to PC command. I guess that should work.
According to the BeoMedia 1 manual, page 16, picture 2 – I have not dealt a long time with those connections – using a VGA to HDMI connection seems to require additional audio connections, for which I guess will be no fitting input on the BSys 4. Using a Scart to HDMI adapter may be successful, integrating audio and video signals, as shown in the manual on the same page in picture 1.
Rolf2 wrote:
I am thinking of connecting the BSys 3 as external source to the HDMI-In of the BSys 4. The question will be, how to start the sources connected to the BSys 3, once it is selected via BSys 4?
If the Bsys 3 can be set in option 4 all commands will be Link + commands with will not interfere with the Bsys 4. That way you could control it, but not very user friendly.
The BSys 3 can be set to options 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6.
For your Beolab. speakers you will also need some DIN to Rj45 adapters.
Also do you connect to a Masterlink Network? Then you will also need a NL/ML converter in the mix
with all these extra cables/adapters, and the risk of limitation on your sources you might have to consider what benefits you gain from the Bsys 4 compared to the Bsys 3. Is it worth the upgrade when you keep using the BV4?
If you just need it to be NL compatible you could add an NL/ML converter to your existing setup.
The offer includes two adapters rj-45 to PL DIN and two rj-45 to PUC adapters. And you are right, I really do consider if the endeavour is worth the effort. And there is an additional point I am considering: I have a ML / NL network established. The BSys 3 is connected to a BLC. This BLC is connected as primary source to a BeoSound Essence MK II, and as secondary source to another BLC which is the ML / NL connection for my BeoSystem 4500. So, I can get B&O Radio, Deezer or Tidal, CD, Tape and Phono via the BLC to the BSys 3.
I guess, that switching from ML to NL with the respective BSys, will even be a disadvantage in this case. Currently, I can chose the above mentioned sources and let them play over the BSys 3 without hearing the audio in the room where the respective sources are placed. Using the BSys 4, I can only join an already playing source – which I can chose as well with the current solution – but I will not be able to actively start / connect a source like it is possible via the BLC?
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