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  • #42907
    Evan
    GOLD Member
      • San Francisco

      Hey everyone! It’s been a long time since I’ve written a thread like this but it seems I have some time to do so and I shouldn’t keep all my delicious build photos to myself.

      Here is the long (and still running!) saga of my 2022 rescue of a pair of MK2 PentaLabs.

      But first some context! I kind of live in two places – San Francisco, CA and Bridgend, Wales. It’s a long story that mostly involves work. Work is speakers, and speakers are life so everything has blended into one and the same. So if some of the details in this story don’t make logical/logistical sense then that is most likely due to my frantic, time-impoverished, trying to keep everyone happy, expat lifestyle I currently find myself in.

      Like many of you, I religiously browse Facebook marketplace, craigslist and eBay just looking at all the B&O gear I could buy. I found a listing for a pair of MK2 Pentas in the East Bay area and kept my eye on the listing for a few months. Definitely didn’t need them as I already have a pair of MK3’s (in a storage unit, 2500 miles away, might as well be on Mars) but then again, the bedroom in SF needs some floor-standers for movie watching and to play music from my then recently acquired BS Moment that the PrizeDrawBot himself sent my way. Turns out luck was on my side as the girlfriend and I found ourselves in the east bay at a lunch gathering. This was a group of my girlfriend’s colleagues so I was naturally, silently plotting to grab those Pentas on the way home. And snag them we did. I even planned ahead for this and made sure we took the larger of our cars in order to accommodate them and carry them home.

      Naturally the confident seller stated that they were a flawless pair of Pentas that had zero foam rot. The seller was a restauranteur and used them as PA speakers for wedding receptions and that sort of thing so in hindsight they had lived a pretty tough life. We arrived at the restaurant and I shined my phone light through the fret to show him what foam rot really looked like – the surrounds were literally falling out and collecting in a neat pile behind the fret. The seller also decided to stop using the amps themselves and very inconveniently extended a pair of speaker wires through them amp (yes, he fished the wire THROUGH the amp) instead of just disconnecting the amps altogether and running wire out the back. But at any rate, they seemed savable and both made music so I made a deal.

      I think in the end I paid $450 for them.

      Here they are in our old bedroom connected up to the Moment for sadly what was only a very brief moment. The amp started cutting out on the right BeoLab and I realized that the tweeter wasn’t even playing. So out they went into the garage as I ordered parts and prepared for my departure to Wales.

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      #42908
      Evan
      GOLD Member
        • San Francisco

        I quickly ordered all the cap kits from BeoParts and a new set of surrounds from good hifi (I think). Both took a long time to arrive in CA and sadly not soon enough for me to do anything about it. I was flying out to Wales in order to start my next assignment at work.

        They stood in the corner of the garage not doing anything for about 3 months.

        I finally returned from Wales in November and finally had the chance to sink my teeth into these babies. First things first – lets get the mids out.

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        #42909
        Evan
        GOLD Member
          • San Francisco

          After taking the mids out and taking those to the office (more about that later), I decided to pull out the crossovers and start there. Lets get started with the fun, easy soldering of putting new caps into the crossover.

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          #42910
          Evan
          GOLD Member
            • San Francisco

            One thing I didn’t notice until I started the re-cap was this burned resistor.

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            I suspect this artifact is evidence to their history of being thrashed in a large restaurant but this seemed to be the limit to the damage on the crossover. Anyway, needed to order this resistor from Mouser and do some waiting. So I moved on to the amps themselves while waiting for a pair of these resistors to arrive.

            #42911
            Evan
            GOLD Member
              • San Francisco

              Now time for the amplifiers. Man do these things need a lot of disassembly before you can really get to the matter at hand. Not to mention the actual task of working inside a pentagonal heatsink. However that was also something to marvel at. The engineer in me is very impressed that this amp even exists. The heat sink is clearly just big enough to hold the transformer and there seemingly isn’t a single right angle among any two components. Packaging this thing mist have been hell. If anyone from the original Penta project team is reading this, I’d love to know more about this. Did you guys/gals use CAD to develop this package?! Even if you did, I’m impressed.

              Never mind the poor photo, this was mostly just to keep track of cable routing.

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              Now that the gray trim pieces and power cord are off, its time to pull out those power supplies.

              #42912
              Evan
              GOLD Member
                • San Francisco

                See what I mean?? This is amazing. Yes, those power supplies actually fit in there!

                This level of disassembly is unfortunately necessary, the power caps (and all other caps to be honest) live in the core of this beast.

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                #42913
                pepps
                GOLD Member
                  • Kent, UK

                  Loving this thread  🙂

                  #42914
                  Evan
                  GOLD Member
                    • San Francisco

                    Loving this thread ?

                    Glad you like it! Had to take a lunch break, now back at it.

                    #42915
                    Evan
                    GOLD Member
                      • San Francisco

                      First thing was to get the main power caps swapped out. Seemed easy enough! Turned out, like many things in this amp, to be a highly-tedious process due to the cramped nature of this beast. The cable routings are exact. No real wiggle room to get things in and out and the lack of extra wiring harness made it extremely tough to get the connections made without burning things nearby with the soldering iron.

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                      In the background I was watching the AutoAlex series on his new Jag XJR-6. Highly recommended! Judging by the coffee hardware in the background this was clearly an AM session!

                      #42916
                      Evan
                      GOLD Member
                        • San Francisco

                        A closer look at what I mean. No slack in the wires and they are nearly tied in knots through those solder lugs. I tried to surgically remove the wiring exactly as it was by de-soldering with a pump and painstakingly maneuvering the wires out but in the end it wasn’t worth it.

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                        In order to get the new caps to fit in the black plastic holder, I needed to add some wire so I soldered on some extensions ultimately.

                        #42917
                        Evan
                        GOLD Member
                          • San Francisco

                          New power caps are finally in. I always appreciate finding all the little B&O branding elements throughout old systems like this. I’m guessing these were all made by suppliers but still nice to see.

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                          #42918
                          Evan
                          GOLD Member
                            • San Francisco

                            Now for all the little caps inside plus trimmers and a fresh Burr Brown OPA134 op amp. Hope you like working with a flashlight.

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                            #42919
                            Evan
                            GOLD Member
                              • San Francisco

                              After a few hours, I had a modest pile of old caps out and replaced with fresh electrolytic goodness.

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                              Again – absolutely amazing opportunity to marvel at some truly epic packaging / design engineering.

                              #42920
                              Evan
                              GOLD Member
                                • San Francisco

                                After swapping out all the parts in the amps, I also set the bias voltage and DC offset and called it a day. They seemed to be tip top!

                                Now to switch tracks a bit and get over to sorting the acoustics. Classic Penta story here – all eight midrange transducers need new foam surrounds.

                                This particular chapter takes place in the office lab. A lab where new loudspeaker prototypes are brought to life so it is the perfect place to do this kind of work.

                                Starting with a shop vac, I carefully vacuumed up the large chunks that were basically just falling off. Then alcohol to remove the remaining residue in preparation for the new surrounds.

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                                I’ve never seen such terrible foam rot before!

                                 

                                #42921
                                Evan
                                GOLD Member
                                  • San Francisco

                                  About an hour or so later, I have a full set, ready for the re-foam job.

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                                  #42922
                                  Evan
                                  GOLD Member
                                    • San Francisco

                                    One of my favorite view from the office. We are very fortunate that our company values engineers and doesn’t shove the soldering station in the basement somewhere!

                                    This is usually just our random electronics area. Soldering, buzz-up station, general debugging typically goes on here.

                                    Working in a speaker company means we usually have all the tools for the job haha! In this case it was nice to have a small turntable to spin the drivers on when applying the glue for the surrounds.

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                                    We had a long, three-day weekend here in the US and everyone but myself cleared out early on Friday. After everyone took off, I connected my phone to the monitors on the shelf, started jamming and getting on with the work.

                                    #42923
                                    Evan
                                    GOLD Member
                                      • San Francisco

                                      Things were going well.    ….until they weren’t! The outer flange of the surround was starting to wrinkle and not lay flat so I frantically ran around to try and find something to hold them down while the glue set. Luckily we are a well equipped office and have drink vessels of the exact-right size for this job.

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                                      While the glueing-up was taking place, I also made sure that I ran some signal through them to ensure no nasty misalignment and coil rubs were to take place.

                                      #42924
                                      Evan
                                      GOLD Member
                                        • San Francisco

                                        Now safely back at home, the mids are ready to go back in!!

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                                        #42925
                                        Evan
                                        GOLD Member
                                          • San Francisco

                                          Before we put those mids back in, I noticed something that needs mentioning. The gaskets for the mids looked reusable except for one. One was not properly installed in the first place and was too messed up to re-use. I ended up putting on new foam gaskets myself for all drivers. Adhesive foam strips work well for this sort of thing as they can’t move out of the way during installation.

                                          Sealing is an important topic and I suggest those of you reading this to take a closer look at old gaskets and seals in your speakers. Leaks (even small ones) can lead to strange noises and buzzes etc. Most of all they lead to the acoustic system not working/performing as intended.

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                                          #42926
                                          Evan
                                          GOLD Member
                                            • San Francisco

                                            Here is another great example of deteriorated foam. This is the base of the lower woofer cabinet, I also replaced this on both speakers.

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