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  • #60204
    Severed_hand_of_skywalker
    BRONZE Member
      • Toronto, Canada

      Does anyone have experience using the new Digital Powerllink feature on their Theatre and Mozart speakers?  I noticed it officially launched yesterday and when I updated the app it pointed me to an FAQ.  In true B&O fashion the link they provided is dead:

      https://www.bang-olufsen.com/faq/beolink-surround

      #60210
      Millemissen
      BRONZE Member
        • Flensborg————Danmark

        Try this

        MM

        #60211
        Millemissen
        BRONZE Member
          • Flensborg————Danmark

          Please note that they are talking about Wireless as well as about Wired Digital Powerlink.

          There have been DPL ports (RJ45) on many speaker products for a while now.

          I wonder if e.g. the BL90 can be used wired with the BS Theatre (which has a free network port) and this way provide a digital connection instead of the old analog PL?

          Edit! I’ll have to correct myself – reading on the B&O Discord reveals, that the DPL version of the 90’s is not compatible with the new Mozart-based 😥

          MM

           

           

          #60214
          NQVHNWI
          FOUNDER Member

            Details are vague and there is stuff I cannot talk about but my understanding is the the original DPL seen on products like the BL90 and 50 is a high-speed/high quality proprietary communication system between Master to Slave on the big Beolabs. Both data, post-data and music is sent from the Master to the Slave. I believe it only exists as a CAT7/8 Transfer link.

            This technology may have been superseded by the last +3-5 years of BeoApp development (Settings for both speakers can be accessed and I guess communicated to each via the app/wifi directly and possibly WISA?

             

            The new DPL is/has to be Mozart based and I believe it is a (more or less) real-time Ethernet/Wifi/Lan solution. The DPL of the BL90/50 and the DPL of Mozart-based products are not compatible or interchangeable with each other.

            From my experience, adding the Moz-DPL speakers to the Theatre instead of WISA I believe somewhat simplifies the whole setup. The Theatre takes over all the controls as a DPL Master and you can even hide Moz-DPL speakers from your product page so everything is Theatre-centric.

            Looks so far to be quite a unifying solution and will be probably ensure WISA (cable-less powerlink ) and Powerlink will soon die-off in future products?

             

             

            #60221
            Millemissen
            BRONZE Member
              • Flensborg————Danmark

              The Moz-DPL tech not only simplifies the setup, it also allows for way more speakers (= the newer BS) to be used in a multichannel setup.

              And yes, we probably won’t see many speakers with analog PL in the future (the BL8 is maybe the last one).

              Luckily the BS Theatre has analog PL’s allowing for the use of oldschool BL there.

              If there will ever be a (entry level) new Stage-like soundbar, I suppose that that will only have support for wireless Moz-DPL.

              Interesting future 😀

              How about a Moz-DPL receiver for adding old Beolabs, just like there was a WiSA receiver 🤔

              Or how about a headphone with support for Moz-DPL !

              MM

              #60243
              martin01
              BRONZE Member

                Hi, Have anyone tried the new DPL-Software 4.1.1.116 and connected Mozart speakers to Theatre? Does it work well or is it a buggy software?

                Best Regards
                Martin

                #60247
                martin01
                BRONZE Member

                  Is there a manual how to connect Mozart-speakers with DPL-connection? There is one important thing that I think not all Mozart speakers owners know. It is that if you have two Mozart speakers that are Paired together (working as a stereo pair), you have to separate the pair in the APP before you connect them as DPL speakers. If they are not disconnected as pair, they will not show up in the list of speakers for DPL-connection in the APP.

                  Are B&O going to make more “promotion” regarding this new DPL-feature? It is a very good thing but people has to know that it exists.

                  Best Regards

                  Martin

                  #60250
                  Severed_hand_of_skywalker
                  BRONZE Member
                    • Toronto, Canada

                    Seems the FAQ link in the first post is now working 🙂

                    Im confused as to what protocol this DPL uses. If I have a beosound 2 and I connect it to my Theatre wirelessly what protocol does it use to transmit? it is using WIFI direct somehow to WISA or what?

                    #60256
                    martin01
                    BRONZE Member

                      Hi, it is wifi protocol or if you have wired ethernet, it goes with that.

                      #60258
                      Severed_hand_of_skywalker
                      BRONZE Member
                        • Toronto, Canada

                        So is it eating up my 5ghz or 2.4ghz bands. Does the Audio use a lot of bandwidth?

                        #60261
                        Millemissen
                        BRONZE Member
                          • Flensborg————Danmark

                          Christian K wrote on Discord:

                          You can choose between LC3+ (lossy) and PCM (lossless).

                          Although LC3+ is lossy, it’s a high quality codec and not squeezed (fixed 500kbps per channel). It also offers best in class error correction, so in case of bit errors, you actually won’t notice whereas PCM will give you a dropout in sound.

                           

                          P.S.

                          I guess you will need two (of the same) devices/as a pair.

                          I’d go for a wired connection, (if you want the lossless version).

                          MM

                          #60264
                          Sandyb
                          BRONZE Member

                            A Mozart BS2 can be used / connected wirelessly with a Theatre – the app (connected speakers part of Theatre settings) will give you the option to select/connect via 3 means now.  Those 3 being Powerlink, WISA, and now DPL.   If you have a DPL speaker, that will be an option.

                            More broadly, you can only connect a max of 4 speakers to the Theatre via DPL.

                            #60265
                            Sandyb
                            BRONZE Member
                              #60276
                              Severed_hand_of_skywalker
                              BRONZE Member
                                • Toronto, Canada

                                ” In a fully wired setup, a wired connection between your router and Beosound/Beovision Theatre is mandatory.”

                                Hmmm interesting, wonder why

                                 

                                #60288
                                martin01
                                BRONZE Member

                                  What they mean is that all mozart products (Theatre and speakers you want to connect with DPL) should be on the same network. Easiest way to check this is that you reach all products with the BO App. BO could describe this in a little more easy way.

                                  #60289
                                  martin01
                                  BRONZE Member

                                    Have anyone of you tried to connect Mozart speakers with DPL?

                                    #60290
                                    TinusAMS
                                    BRONZE Member

                                      Yep. 28’s to my Theatre. And also used a Balance as surround speaker via DPL.

                                      Everything works fine, but I’d like to still be able to use my speakers independently from Theatre – which is not possible via DPL. So I am back to PL.

                                      #60312
                                      oli
                                      BRONZE Member

                                        Do you know what the performance is regarding audio quality ? WISA is limited to 24 bits /96kHZ, is it the same ?

                                        #60314
                                        Sandyb
                                        BRONZE Member

                                          Answered above no?

                                          The quote was from Christian (at B&O) in response to a pretty similar question over on Discord.

                                           

                                          #60316
                                          Millemissen
                                          BRONZE Member
                                            • Flensborg————Danmark

                                            Answered above no? The quote was from Christian (at B&O) in response to a pretty similar question over on Discord.

                                            ——–

                                            ……as quoted in my post above from 18 October 2024 at 22:51

                                            MM

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