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  • #70998
    YannChris
    FOUNDER Member

    Hello Beoworlders,

    I changed my living-room setup and need to update my BL50s settings.

    I’ve read the Technical Sound Guide and made the attached summary of the parameters I plan to implement in the speakers (left side) and the physical datas (meters) of the room with the listening positions (right side).

    These positions are:

    • Sweet spot –> everything is in the name. Mainly for critical listening when I’m alone.
    • Fenêtre –> that’s where I usually sit in the sofa since sweet spot is occupied by… the dog!
    • Table –> when having a dinner with friends.
    • Party –> after dinner, everybody dancing in the whole room.
    • Cinema –> watching films, the whole couch occupied.

    What I understand from the technical guide is that room compensation filters have to be created for these places. Considered microphone placements are shown on the bottom-right scheme.

    I wonder which beam width use when creating the filters. I would be tented to use the narrow width to have more precise measurements for dual-use positions (Sweet spot and Fenêtre) and wide for the others.

    What’s your advice?

    Thanks,

    Yann.

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    #71109
    Beofile7
    BRONZE Member

    My understanding is that beam width plays no part in room compensation? Either will do and then choose wide or narrow and save as a preset?

    Unless someone knows different?

    #71180
    NQVHNWI
    FOUNDER Member

    Kinda forgotten how I did it on the BL90s?

    The room compensation is set up in a particular mode on the 90s. (i.e Narrow, Wide, Omni). You instruct the 90s what the mode is (1,2,3) being formed.

    The room calibration (one man on his own in a chair) centres around an imaginary cube around said mans head. Furthest corner, nearest corner, centre of head etc)

    Different room calibrations can be added together to “widen the area’ (two people on a sofa) etc. This can actually be done in Narrow mode!

     

    My ultimate take on the N/W/O thing is in a way that it is a gimmick – of sorts. There is no-doubt the narrow mode calibration is effective in reducing reflections and offers pin-sharp imaging and soundstage but it comes at a cost of high latency (computation time).

    Wide mode is just a “blurring” or dumbing down of narrow mode (in my opinion)  which reduces the detailed computations required to sufficiently reduce latency and make the BL90/50 usable as AV speakers. Omni is just “let it rip” mode.

     

    So yes, beam width and room compensation are intimately linked. There may be slight variances between the BL90 and BL50 calibration…as one has a single acoustic lens and the other has 14 separate drivers but I imagine the subroutine will be practically identical?

     

    #71190
    YannChris
    FOUNDER Member

    Hello Beofile and 10%,

    What I understand in the explanations of the BL50 Technical Sound Guide is that narrow mode minimizes the influence of wall-reflections by narrowing the angle formed by the 2 moving wings placed under the acoustical lens. On wide mode, the wings are aligned so room-reflections are less reduced.

    So, as 10%, I tend to think that Room compensation and beam width are linked.

    I’ll stick to my plan.

    Thanks for your help and kind regards,

    Yann.

     

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    #71197
    NQVHNWI
    FOUNDER Member

    Yes they are…as stated above.

    The process is the same for narrow mode and wide mode. The only difference is a) the lens adjusts its profile and b) there is (I would guess) some sort of “clipping”/”de-resolution” of the data/algorithm which reduces the latency.

    I do not think that “wide” mode is caused by the lens position alone.

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