Home Forums Product Discussion & Questions BeoMaster Beomaster 2400 cannot switch to FM5 !

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  • #46890
    traverso
    BRONZE Member

      Hello,

      I am renovating a Beomaster 2400 and identified the following issue.

      When trying to activate FM 5, it does not happen and the 2400 remains on the actual selection, whatever. Although I may access any other entry than FM 5.

      The following done already replacement of:

      • the TR21 switching transistor,
      • IC5 and IC6 switching ICs,
      • all lamps as provided by Beoparts although not directly related

      and also testing the relevant power supply 15V and 12,5V.

      The rest of the 2400 is working fine.

      Thank you for advise and tracks to explore.

      Cheers

      Alain

       

      #46891
      Dillen
      Moderator

        Will it switch to FM5, if you touch the FM5 contact pin on the main PCB directly with your finger?

        Martin

        #46892
        traverso
        BRONZE Member

          No it does not if I am on an other entry

          However, it starts the 2400 when in stand by but does not allow to use FM5 the corresponding lamp is not lit, but in that case I may switch to any other input

           

          Alain

          #46893
          Dillen
          Moderator

            So the FM5 lamp never lights up – even while touching the FM5 pad?
            Was this problem present also before you started work?
            Before you replaced lamps?

            Martin

            #46894
            traverso
            BRONZE Member

              Yes it was always there

              (By the way I measured the lamps they are 18 Ohms each instead of 12/14 Ohms as a consequence, the voltage reference for muting measured at R3, 33Ohms of PCB 5 is no longer 2,5 Volts but 1,9 Volt)

              #46895
              Dillen
              Moderator

                Since it does switch on, we can assume that the sensor pad circuit around TR21 is working.
                The problem must be somewhere from R126 up to IC6. A broken copper trace, perhaps?
                Have you checked R126? Those high-ohm resistors can go way high or even completely open.

                You could lift one end of R122 and R126 respectively and cross their connections to see if the FM5 pad will then give you FM4 and the problem moved to the FM4 pad.

                Martin

                #46896
                Madskp
                GOLD Member
                  • Denmark

                  Is the P5 button located on another PCB like it is in a BM3000?

                  in that case I had similar trouble with a BM3000 where the problem was the soldered ribbon cable connections where they meet the PCB where there was one bad solder point, and one case where one of the wires going through the PCB was bent a little and short circiuted to one of the other pins

                  #46897
                  traverso
                  BRONZE Member

                    The signalling only is on an other PCB not the commands

                    #46898
                    traverso
                    BRONZE Member

                      Yes!

                      I used FM4 to activate FM5 and it works as follows:

                      • the R122 and R126 lifted from the IC6 side
                      • the R122 connected in place of R126 on IC6 side

                      So the issue is between TR21 and the IC6, to confirm I have to replace this R126 or look for broken copper track

                      Thanks a lot Martin

                      #46899
                      traverso
                      BRONZE Member

                        The culprit was R126 measured 40 MOhms

                        #46900
                        Dillen
                        Moderator

                          Well done!

                          Martin

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