Home Forums Product Discussion & Questions BeoLab BeoLab 8000: Broken plastic leg supporting PCB > which glue ?

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  • #58082
    KolfMAKER
    SILVER Member

    The older series of BeoLab 8000 (09xx, 10xx) have plastic legs supporting the PCB, that have become brittle overtime. And sometimes easily break apart when working on the screws that hold the PCB to these legs. See picture.

    BeoLab 8000 - Plastic PCB Holder Leg broken

    I have tried to glue the broken part back using super glue. But it does not work well, the glue does not keep the parts together well. So I am looking for glue that works better.

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    What glue works best for this purpose, with tis kind of plastic?

    Location: The Netherlands
    #58085
    Beobuddy
    FOUNDER Member

    Glueing will not work. The first screw that enters, will break it again.

    Reproducing these:

    BL8000 PSU amplifier support

     

    Or at the PSU side:

    BL8000 PSU support

     

    #58090
    Glitch
    BRONZE Member

    The 3D printed part is a great solution!

    If you still want to try repairing the old part, a stronger glue, added reinforcements, or a combination of both might work. Below are a couple (of many ways) to do this.

    Glue_Posts

    In the first picture. The outside of the post is roughed up so a mechanical bond with the glue can be made. My favorite glue for this type of repair is original JB Weld. In this repair the epoxy itself provides all of the strength.

    In the second picture, metal pins are heated and pushed into the plastic. The melted plastic holds the pins in place and the metal provides the strength.ย  Another option could be to glue a thin walled metal tube over the post.

    For any repair, be sure that you clean out any material that may have gotten into the screw hole. Lubricating the screw can also reduce the stress on the repaired part.

    None of these options will look as good as the 3D printed part, but once the speaker is reassembled nobody but you will know.

    Glitch

    #58092
    Beobuddy
    FOUNDER Member

    My experience with glueing the parts together with supports around etc is, that the plastic is so brittle and it easily breaks again at another place along the pillar.

    To prevent breaking I always start to search for the thread and use some grease or just wetting the screw to carefully turn the screw with the minimal amount of force back in its place.

    #58096
    KolfMAKER
    SILVER Member

    Thanks BeoBuddy !

    I agree on the ‘brittleness’. The material all over is quite vulnerable after all these years. After it happened with one screw, I put just a bit of WD40 in the other screw holes. Keeping the screw vertical and screwing slowly works quite well. Anyhow, if one screws slowly without too much of resistance, it works well.

    For all other cases, it is indeed better to create new brackets/stands. I think I might also do this on my 3D printer.

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    By the way, did you see my PM to you?

     

    Location: The Netherlands
    #61991
    jaspers1996
    BRONZE Member

    Hi Beobuddy,

    Are these models available somewhere? Would be of great help to me, thanks!

    #63852
    LeHe
    SILVER Member

    Jaspers1996,

    You can buy them for your Beolab 8000 at http://www.dksoundparts.com ( circa โ‚ฌ 20,- a piece)

    #63854
    KolfMAKER
    SILVER Member

    Thanks @Jaspers1996

    I have a 3D printer, so having a 3D model would be my preference.

     

    Location: The Netherlands
    #64246
    Frog
    GOLD Member

    Yes, agree. A STL would be great.

    #64482
    LeHe
    SILVER Member

    For most people who overhaul their own Beolab 8000 once it seems to me more convenient and much cheaper to just buy a new holder, versus the cost of purchasing a 3D printer or commissioning someone who has one and who first has to create an STL file

     

    #64483
    Frog
    GOLD Member

    You are forgetting those who already have a 3D printer – like me.

    #64484
    LeHe
    SILVER Member

    Ok, certainly true, but who will make the STL file first, still seems more expensive than simply buy 2 print holders for โ‚ฌ 40,- ย for that one time or it has to be about numbers (business)

    #64485
    Frog
    GOLD Member

    The STL file is already there. Just not in the public domain.

    #64486
    KolfMAKER
    SILVER Member

    Where can I find it Frog?

    Location: The Netherlands
    #64487
    LeHe
    SILVER Member

    It looks like Beobuddy has an STL file that he used to print the white version at the beginning of this article.

    So ask him to provide it.

    The black one in the same picture next to the white is the injection-molding machine version from the supplier I mentioned earlier

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