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  • #63961
    Daniel
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    Hallo allerseits!

    Ich bin bei meiner andauernden Recherche zu meinem Vorhaben, was ich im Folgenden beschreiben werde, an den Punkt gekommen, an dem es ratsam ist, die Meinung erfahrener Menschen heranzuziehen.

    MEIN VORHABEN:
    Mein Vorhaben ist, eine Beolab 7-1 (Aktivlautsprecher) an meine Beosound (Beocenter Type 2631 + 2 Beolab 2500 Lautsprecher) anzuschliessen und sie als Mono Center Speaker zu integrieren.

    HINTERGRUND:
    Ein Freund hat mir jüngst die Beosound vermacht. In seinem Setup war sie an einen BV Avant 28 angeschlossen, sodass zusätzlich die Lautsprecher des TVs, welche auch niedrigste Frequenzen hervorragend wiedergegeben haben, angesteuert wurden. Ich liebe diesen bewegenden Klang mit seiner Klarheit seit über 20 Jahren und versuche nun, da ich selber in den Besitz einer (dieser) Beosound gekommen bin, unter Hinzunahme einer Beolab 7-1 ein ähnliches Ergebnis zu erzielen.

    MEIN PLAN ZUM ANSCHLUSS DER BEOLAB 7-1:
    Beocenter -> Masterlink Kabel -> Beolink active -> 2 Powerlink Kabel (links und rechts) -> „ein mir bis dato unbekanntes Stereo-to-Mono-Mixing-Modul“ -> Powerlink Kabel -> Beolab 7-1

    (Ich habe es mit einem Converter 1611 versucht, aber die 7-1 blieb stumm).

    MEINE FRAGEN:
    Kann mein Plan überhaupt funktionieren? Gibt es ein Modul, was die 2 Stereo-Signale des Beolink active in ein Mono-Signal für die Beolab 7-1 mixt/wandelt? Oder gibt es einen anderen Weg?

    Vielen Dank für eure Zeit und Expertise!

    Beosound Ouverture Typ 2631 (2 Powerlink-Anschlüsse für beide Beolab 2500, 1 Masterlink-Anschluss)
    Beolab 7-1 (1 Powerlink-Anschluss)

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    #63966
    Tignum
    GOLD Member

    Hi Daniel, good news! You do not need any ‘mixer’. The PowerLink cable contains both L&R signals, and the 7-1 is a stereo speaker. One PowerLink cable from the Active to the 7-1 is enough. You do need an IR eye connected to the Active to (independently) control the volume for the 7-1.

    Note that you will not achieve any ‘surround sound center’ effect: the 7-1 will exactly play the same stereo sound as the Ouverture.

    Hope this helps! Regards, Johan

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    #63976
    Daniel
    BRONZE Member

    Hi Tignum! Thanks a lot for helping me out!! During my research I somehow got mixed up and ended up thinking the 7-1 is a mono speaker. Too much data input during the last weeks  – in a field, in which i have zero clue. But, hey, that’s good news indeed!! I don’t need a ‘mixer’ XD

    About ‘the sorround sound effect’: I don’t need that either. When the 7-1 plays the same stereo sound as the Ouverture that would be perfect!!!

    I’ve already ordered a Beolink Active 1636, an IR eye and a IR eye remote receiver cable today due to your quick response. I can hardly wait to listen to this setup. I know, figuring out how to configurate the volumes and so on with the Beo4 will be a tough nut to crack also! But heck, nobody said it would be easy.

    Thanks again, Johan!

    Cheers! Daniel

     

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    #64061
    Tignum
    GOLD Member

    Nice, keep us posted! 😀

    Theoretically you could directly ‘split’ the audio signal from the Ouverture, the only thing is then, that you cannot control how loud the 7-1 plays vs. the 2500s of the Ouverture.

    With the IR controlled Active between the Ouverture and the 7-1 you can control the volumes independently, or even play the speakers separately. The only thing you need to be aware of is that the IR receivers of both the Active AND the Ouverture might react to remote control commands simultaneously (when they are in the same room). This could be managed by putting the Active in Option 4 and by using the LINK ‘pre-fix’ when controlling it. To help crack the nut!

    Regards,

    Johan

     

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    #64122
    Daniel
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    Thx Johan! I‘ll keep that in mind for sure! I’ve never read anything anywhere about this ‚pre-fix‘ method – not even in the manuals! I know it would be naive to expect my little experiment to run one hundred percent smoothly. After all, it is an experiment. But, man, I have the feeling that you‘ve just saved me a lot of trouble.

    I‘ll keep you updated. In a couple of days all parts will be on site. Now I need shelfs an cable ducts and more cable ducts XD

    cheers! Daniel

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    #65426
    Daniel
    BRONZE Member

    A few weeks later….

    So I‘ve build the shelf, connected all the cables, set the Beolink to Option 4, programmed Treble, Bass and Loudness for both Ouverture and Beolab 7-1 and this is where i am now:

    I am currently experiencing a wonderful listening pleasure which I didn‘t expect at all to turn out this intense. I hear so many things that I have never heard before, and yet every bit of sound has so much space and time to unfold and have an effect on me; I am discovering the dedication and precision with which musicians have composed their songs. And the most wonderful thing is that I experience myself in a way I have never experienced before. The music fills something in my head that I didn‘t even know could be filled. It is an almost indescribable experience of saturation. My thoughts fade away, my body sinks into oblivion and the rest of me is simply receptive. And it lingers on. There is so much calm and peace in me when I‘ve been totally on the receiving end for a while…

    As I said before, I didn‘t expect it to be THIS good! Thx for your help again, Tignum! And of course I have to thank B&O as well for making this quality products!

    Nontheless, I still have a few technical questions though; (I don‘t think I‘ve even begun to understand the whole programming thing):

    ■ If I press >LIST< on the Beo4 until >LINK< appears and then press >CD<, I have access to the volume of the 7-1. With >A.SETUP< I can change bass, treble, loudness and also store changes with >S.STORE<. Every time I press the button, the red IR EYE light flashes.
    ■ If I then press >CD< again, I have access to the Ouverture and can change everything there. The IR EYE light does not flash.

    ? ► In both cases, the Beo4 display shows >CD<. It would be helpful if the display showed which loudspeaker I currently have control over.
    ? ► I have connected my PC (iTunes) to the Ouverture via 5-pin MIDI to 3.5mm jack cable using the AUX connection. BUT: if I plug my PC into the AUX input, I can no longer access the 7-1 via the Beo4 (the 7-1 just plays on a very low level). I think that‘s because I don‘t have an AUX button on the Beo4 (for pressing LIST>LINK>AUX) Is there any solution to this, cause otherwise I‘d have to write a lot of digital data on disc.
    ? ► And one last thing: Can I permanently link the volume control of the Beosound 2500 and the 7-1 so that I can turn all speakers down or up synchronously? I don‘t even know if this makes sense, as it seems each CD actually needs its own volume settings (just for the volume balancing of both Beosound 2500 and the 7-1). But perhaps that could be part of the answer to my second question. Ideally, I would like to be able to save separate settings for each CD, lol.

    I know, my setup is more of a frankenstein solution, but maybe I missed something along the way XD. Thanks for any help in advance.

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    #65462
    Tignum
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    Hi Daniel, wow that sounds like a success!

    To your questions:

    1. there does not seem to be an ‘L-CD’ virtual button for the Beo4 button unfortunately (see the lexicon here: https://bangolufsenassistentgohe.blob.core.windows.net/manuals/APPS_AND_ACCESSORIES/BEO4_(W._NAVIGATION_BUTTON)/beo4-navbutton_lexicon_multilanguage.pdf)
    2. will it help to add the L-A.AUX virtual button under LIST? (I am not sure if all types of Beo4 have this though).
    3. after storing (with S.STORE) the right volume settings in both the Ouverture and the BeoLink Active for the best listening experience,  you could try to put your BeoLink Active in option 6. My hope is then that both devices will react to normal Beo4 commands, as the IR receivers will accept remote control commands simultaneously. There is no need to use a ‘LINK’ prefix anymore, and it will also mean that you will listen to all speakers. Maybe worth a try?

    Hope it helps! Regards, Johan

     

     

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