Beogram / Beosystem 3000C

[Marc L]

Hi everybody,

I just heard about the new BEOSYSTEM 3000C.

It looks great!

My question:
Does this recreated classic mean that B&O will produce and sell again cartridges for their turntables?

I am asking because my Beogram 6500 urgently needs a new one.
Or do we still have to order from SoundSmith in the USA?

Marc

Location: Paris
Favourite Product: Beosystem 6500 (without tape desk), MCP 6500, Red 1972 BEOLIT 500
My B&O Icons:

[Mark-sf]

I really doubt it and actually am quite appalled. Here they are offering a limited edition $30K system and only supplying an MMC4 cartridge! As an alternative to Soundsmith (which I have used) there is turntableneedles.com that advertises new MMC cartridges.

[DT79]

Mark-sf wrote:

I really doubt it and actually am quite appalled. Here they are offering a limited edition $30K system and only supplying an MMC4 cartridge! As an alternative to Soundsmith (which I have used) there is turntableneedles.com that advertises new MMC cartridges.

Wow, that really takes the biscuit – charging that price (absurd enough) and only supplying the most basic of styli. Shame on them.

[Marc L]

Mark-sf wrote:
there is turntableneedles.com that advertises new MMC cartridges

Until know I have purchased new cartridges from SoundSmith.

1. I was planing to by the $350* SMMC3 by SoundSmith, not being sure that the $800 SMMC4 would be worth the price difference regarding the LPs I own, mainly pop, rock and reggae from the 80’s and the 90’s, some jazz (Miles Davis) and few classical music.
   Would the SMMC4 be really worth the investment for me? Theoretically yes, but…
   Regarding also the fact that I will soon purchase the 1245€ Rotel RB 1552 MkII amplifier to support my Beomaster 6500**…
   –
2. I did not find the references for my Beogram in turntableneedles.com…
   Can you please provide some link please?
   How do they cartridges compare to the ones by SoundSmith?

Mark-sf wrote:
Here they are offering a limited edition $30K system and only supplying an MMC4

In German, I would say: Die haben den Arsh ofen!
Sorry for the rude language.
My forthcoming 1245€ investment in a new amplifier looks ridiculous compared to that price.

(*) With currency change and 20% french tax that would end up to around 380€, maybe 400€ if import taxes should be added.
(**) I just received a high quality POWERLINK DIN to RCA cable (with Neutrik connectors).

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Location: Paris
Favourite Product: Beosystem 6500 (without tape desk), MCP 6500, Red 1972 BEOLIT 500
My B&O Icons:

[Mark-sf]

I cannot recommend turntable needles.com as I have no experience with them. Any of the MMC cartridges will work with your table; however, if it was me, I’d go with the SMMC3 from Soundsmith. B&O used them for the release of the Beogram 4000C  using an SMMC20CL. This gets you the nude hyper-elliptical diamond where the 4 is a bonded diamond.

[Marc L]

Thank you Mark for your reply.
My question was rather if I should get the SMMC2 which costs the double of the SMMC3…
I think that I will purchase the SMMC3.

However I will have to repair my Beogram 6500 first because a frame fell from the wall right onto my turntable some time ago… 🙁
The Beogram cover has not been damaged, but the tangential arm no longer moves sideways.
I hope that nothing is broken. 🫰
I will have to dismantle the turntable to check that and I may have to come back with questions about this…

Location: Paris
Favourite Product: Beosystem 6500 (without tape desk), MCP 6500, Red 1972 BEOLIT 500
My B&O Icons:

[Mark-sf]

For your system, going to the SMMC2 would be well along the diminishing curve with the rest of your system. The SMMC3 is the sweet spot.

[Marc L]

Thank you Mark for your reply!

I will probably follow your advice, especially as I am about to purchase a Rotel power amp to help my Beogram which is sometimes not powerful enough to drive my 4Ω loudspeakers. An amp that I have offered a couple of years ago to my brother who has nothing but praise for it!

Location: Paris
Favourite Product: Beosystem 6500 (without tape desk), MCP 6500, Red 1972 BEOLIT 500
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