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  • #59181
    Jordi Veytia Iglesias
    BRONZE Member

    Hello, I recently got a Beogram 8002. The issue it has is that it doesn’t turn on, not even the red standby dot.
    I checked the insides and everything seems to be fine.

    Inside the power supply the fuse and the transformer do not seem to be damaged.

    My guess is that the Wicon capacitor of the power supply is dead.

    Does anyone know which is a good replacement capacitor?

    Thanks 🙂

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    #59209
    spassmaker
    GOLD Member

    Hi Jordi

    The Capacitor that you mentioned is the last I would change because this is the Phase Cap for the Platter Motor mechanism which normally lasts very long.

    If you got no LED I would resolder ALL solder joints of the plugs on the PCB’s an performing a recap of ALL electrolytic capacitors on thePCB’s.

    Usually after that the BG 8000 will start up again…following issues have to be inspected later.

     

    Here, on Beolovers site, you will find a bunch load to read about restoring the BG 8000

    https://beolover.blogspot.com/p/beogram-80008002-restoration.html

    let us know about your progress

    Kind regards

    Christian

    #61393
    Francois Lemahieu
    BRONZE Member

    Hi Jordi, have you made some progress since then?

    I have no experience whatsoever in fixing a Beogram 8002 and I certainly don’t mean to question Christian’s advice. I am starting looking into my Beogram (which used to be my father’s) as it went down a couple of months ago (same issue as yours, no standby dot). Given my father got it firsthand, I plan to test the power supply first (I have never tried resoldering before and don’t plan to give it a go on the Beogram). In case the capacitor happens to be the defective part, I have seen that beolover has a fancy replacement part for sale here: https://beolover.com/products/motor-capacitor-for-beogram-8000-and-8002?srsltid=AfmBOorVVyq1ac6mtxyNRzYs3qntusTpMdpkbGvgwSCFO5RvZbALmjbR

    Francois

     

    #62364
    Jordi Veytia Iglesias
    BRONZE Member

    Hi Francois, I haven’t made any progress on my Beogram. I got the parts Christian recommended, but I haven’t got to the soldering yet.

    I’ll venture into re-soldering the capacitors and in case that ends up not being the issue I’ll replace the one in the power supply.

    I’ll keep you updated once I get to it.

    Thanks for the advice and good luck with yours.

    Jordi

    #69182
    Jordi Veytia Iglesias
    BRONZE Member

    Hello, how are you?

    I’ve been replacing all the capacitors on the PCB. But I have one question. In the instructions that came with the capacitors for the Beogram 8002 from Beoparts shop, it says that on C27 an additional connection should be introduced, linking the negative pin of C27 to the negative pin of C20.
    I know there are different versions of the PCB and the instructions do not specify if this additional connection should be done on all versions or just in specific ones. I do notice that my PCB is slightly different from the one shown in the instructions which is why I don’t know if I should introduce the new connection.
    Anyone knows if this applies to all versions or just some of them?

    Thanks 🙂

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    #69204
    Mark-sf
    BRONZE Member

    There is no harm in adding that jumper as it is simply connecting two ground points together. These boards being single-sided used jumpers all over the place to connect grounds together.

    #69293
    Jordi Veytia Iglesias
    BRONZE Member

    Great! Thanks for the response. I’ll add the jumper then.

    Thanks 🙂

    #69301
    Jordi Veytia Iglesias
    BRONZE Member

    Hello, how are you? I have replaced all the capacitors following the cap replacement kit from dksoundparts.
    Is there an additional step I should follow before plugin it in? What should I expect to see after plugin it in, red standby light?
    If I get no signs of life should I move ahead and replace the Phase Cap for the Platter Motor mechanism?
    Thanks 🙂

    #69302
    Mark-sf
    BRONZE Member

    First I would double check that All of the replaced capacitors are in the correct polarity. After plugging in, you should see a red dot in the display. If you are not getting that I would check that you have 5VDC at pin P6-1 which is powering the CPU, then work backwards to the Zener and regulator.

    #69322
    Jordi Veytia Iglesias
    BRONZE Member

    How should I proceed in order to test 5VDC at pin P6-1. I have identified the location of that pin, but where should I contact with the other probe in order to test the voltage? Sorry for the dumb question 😬

    Thank you very much.

    #69326
    Mark-sf
    BRONZE Member

    You need to connect the black lead to a chassis ground which is available many places. For example, the negative terminal of C24 or C27.

    #69346
    Jordi Veytia Iglesias
    BRONZE Member

    Thanks, just checked for 5VDC at pin P6-1 with the black lead on negative C27 and got no signs of life.
    I also want to share that the din plug is completely disconnected, the guy I bought it from told me he wanted to replace it with an RCA but never did. Anyway, the din plug is not connected, do you know how to reconnect it? I’m attaching an image.

    Thanks

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    #69353
    Mark-sf
    BRONZE Member

    Looks like someone did a nice hack job. Here is a link to a picture with all the wires on the correct pads: https://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Components.PostAttachments/00.00.12.47.75/bg8000_5F00_din_5F00_pcb_5F00_01.jpg

    #69367
    Jordi Veytia Iglesias
    BRONZE Member

    Thank you very much! I’ll reconnect everything and run the test again.

    🙂

    #69524
    Jordi Veytia Iglesias
    BRONZE Member

    Hello, just sharing an update. I’ve reconnected the severed Din plug. However, I still get bored dot when plugging, no 5VDC at pin 6-1, nor voltage at the 5V regulator. I’ve checked all new capacitors to be installed correctly, but no signs of life.
    Any other suggestions? Should I go ahead and try replacing the Wicon capacitor inside the power brick?
    Thanks 🙂

    #69525
    Mark-sf
    BRONZE Member

    That capacitor is not your problem. You say you don’t have voltage at the 01C1 5V regulator. Does this mean that you measure 0V at both its input and output? If that is the case can you check the continuity of the F1 fuse? If it is good that means you have no output out of the diode bridge and its supporting capacitors.  That’s where I would focus.

    #69561
    Jordi Veytia Iglesias
    BRONZE Member

    Hello, checked all the fuses and the one inside the power brick has no continuity. Going to replace it and will run the tests again.
    I’ll keep you posted.

    Thanks 🙂

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