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7 September 2023 at 08:52 #48789
Renfield
BRONZE MemberHello everyone ,
I have a Beogram 4002 in very good condition, all the meckanic parts work perfectly and the sound reproduction is brilliant!
Unfortunately a clack, scratch sound ramdomly comes back at least once every LP side.
As amplifier I use a Beomaster 4400 which otherwise works perfectly both with my Tape cassette deck and for playing from my computer. (tape 1 and 2)
Has anyone heard about this problem?
Kindest regards
Mats
7 September 2023 at 21:22 #48790BRONZE MemberWhile I have not heard of this issue, there are some questions that can narrow it down.
- Does the sound occur only on one channel?
- Does the sound vary with volume; for example, if the volume is turned way down is the sound soft?
- Does it occur at the same position on the record or randomly?
- Are you using the DIN or RCA jacks?
- Have you tried cleaning or replacing the two trimmers R112/212?
8 September 2023 at 06:18 #48791Dillen
ModeratorIs the clack and scratch sound coming out of the speakers or from the Beogram?
Martin
8 September 2023 at 12:21 #48792Renfield
BRONZE MemberHello,
I don’t know, the only thing I’m sure of is that I do not hear te sound when I play anything else than the Beogram 4002.
Kindest
Mats
8 September 2023 at 12:24 #48793Renfield
BRONZE MemberReply to Mark-sf
On 1, 2, No!
3. Randomly
4. I’m using DIN, that’s what my my Beomaster 4400 has
5. What is ย R112/212?
Kindest regards
Mats
8 September 2023 at 12:26 #48794Renfield
BRONZE MemberCould it be the DIN contact on the Beomaster 4000?
Kindest regards
Mats
8 September 2023 at 14:17 #48795Dillen
ModeratorCan you hear the sounds also if you play a record with the Beomaster turned off or its volume at zero?
Martin
8 September 2023 at 21:03 #48796BRONZE MemberReply to Mark-sf On 1, 2, No! 3. Randomly 4. Iโm using DIN, thatโs what my my Beomaster 4400 has 5. What is R112/212? Kindest regards Mats
Mats, For the sound to come from both your speakers but not be controlled by your volume control is highly unusual and could only occur if the act of playing a record was injecting/disturbing the power amp section of your 4400 directly. I would ask that you try playing a few records with the volume full down and then trying again with the DIN cable unplugged and report your results.
As to R112/212 there are adjustable resisters (trimmers) that are accessed via a screwdriver through the bottom labeled Phono L & R.
8 September 2023 at 22:42 #48797Renfield
BRONZE MemberI will try that.
I get back to you soon.
Kindest
Mats
8 September 2023 at 22:44 #48798Renfield
BRONZE MemberNo, then I don’t hear anything.
Kindest
Mats
8 September 2023 at 23:45 #48799Renfield
BRONZE MemberHello,
Only when I listen to the Beogram 4002.
Kindest regards
Mats
8 September 2023 at 23:52 #48800Renfield
BRONZE MemberI will try that, thanks for the suggestions. I will get back to you when I have tried them.
Kindest regards
Mats
9 September 2023 at 00:13 #48801Renfield
BRONZE MemberNo,
Kindest
Mats
9 September 2023 at 07:40 #48802Dillen
ModeratorCould it be a static discharge from the record/platter/surround?
Has the platter been cleaned with anything other than a soft cloth?Martin
9 September 2023 at 22:48 #48803Renfield
BRONZE MemberHello Martin,
How should I clean the platter?
Kindest regards
Mats
9 September 2023 at 22:49 #48804Renfield
BRONZE MemberShould I only use a soft cloth then, any specific cloth?
Kindest regards
Mats
9 September 2023 at 22:49 #48805Renfield
BRONZE Memberspecific material I meant ๐
Mats
10 September 2023 at 12:35 #48806Dillen
ModeratorYou don’t have to clean the platter now.
It’s just that, if the platter was cleaned at some point, its coating may have been damaged.
Many owners, – particularly of the type 59xx decks, wash their platters or use
solvent-based cleaning products to make the platter shiny.
It may look nice, but the coating has then been washed away and the platters static discharging properties will have been ruined.
This will cause problems with static electricity, that charges up on the record from airs friction. In severe cases you can see “lightning”-type sparks from the record to surrounding chassis metal in a dark room.
The platter should not be shiny. Cleaning should only be done with a soft clothMartin
10 September 2023 at 14:53 #48807Renfield
BRONZE MemberGreat thanks,
I will follow your instructions.
I get back to you later on.
Kindest regards
Mats
10 September 2023 at 15:11 #48808ModeratorIn severe cases you can see โlightningโ-type sparks from the record to surrounding chassis metal in a dark room.
Please Dillen, be gentle with new members. You don’t have to be “that” scary, Freddy-len!
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