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  • #53157
    Weebyx
    BRONZE Member

      So, I have been away from this site for a looong time now, but I thought I would show you something I have been working on.

      This is a complete replacement for PCB8 for the Beogram 4002 and 4004, which includes a RIAA amplifier, and also makes it possible to control the Beogram via Beolink remote through f.ex Beomaster 4500/6500/7000 and the likes.

      It has the same logic regarding features, as a BG7000, including 2-way functionality, so the Beomaster will turn on and select Phono, if the Beogram is powered on via the keybord 🙂

      What do you guys think ? 🙂

       

       

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      #53158
      Mark-sf
      BRONZE Member

        Very clean. How are you deriving the bipolar phono section supplies? I offered a similar mod back in the 1980s (w/o the remote) using a DC-DC converter plug-in module.

        #53159
        Weebyx
        BRONZE Member

          I am running powersupply to opamps via LDO voltage regulators, and actually NOT running dual supply. It is running 0-12v on opamps.

          #53160
          Mjoelnir
          BRONZE Member

            This is a really great restomod! I’ve just auctioned a Beogram 4002 (going to get it today) and plan to upgrade it in this way. Where can I get this upgrade part? Is it easy to install?

            #53161
            Weebyx
            BRONZE Member

              On a 4004, it is 100% plug and play, no soldering or anything. A 4002 is also plug and play, however it needs a new DIN cable, as it is missing pins 6 and 7 for the datalink connections.

              Where do you live ? Currently the only way of getting it, is through me here in Denmark.

              #53162
              Mark-sf
              BRONZE Member

                I suspected as much. I did not choose that route as I wanted the higher head room and direct coupling to avoid caps in the direct signal path,

                #53163
                Weebyx
                BRONZE Member

                  My design is build on Texas Instruments Reference RIAA design, they already use caps in direct signal path, even B&O’s own RIAA, and others, dont use dual power 🙂

                  I set out to build a RIAA amp that most people finds “good enough”, and up until now, everyone has been very happy with how it sounds.

                  I even compared TI’s RIAA curve with this, and they are almost identical.

                  But yes, there will always be ways of optimizing RIAA’s, and no 2 sound the same, and on top of that, 2 people listening to the same RIAA, will also always agree.

                   

                  #53164
                  ChristianHak
                  BRONZE Member

                    Hey mate,

                    How much are you selling your RIAA upgrade for?

                    Mvh,
                    Christian

                    #53165
                    Mjoelnir
                    BRONZE Member

                      I am very new to turntables and preamps and everything, and there are so different opinions that it gets complicated and confusing. For example, are vibrations really a problem of internal preamps? I’d prefer not having yet another box, and not spoiling the design of the Beogram.

                      #53166
                      StanfordBeogram
                      BRONZE Member

                        This is fantastic – and very well laid out. Would it be possible to design one to work with an independent IR sensor so that it may be solely used as with a Beolink remote?

                        Please let me know how I may purchase on of these beautiful boards!

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