Beosound Balance - Issue with stereo pairing

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Hi you all knowledgeable people :)

Why are you not surprised about seeing my enquiry here, asking for support from you instead of B&O customer service?

As I am sure you can tell I HAVE been in touch with them, but after a lengthy dialog and many emails and troubleshooting I find myself in the position where they do not seem to be able to find out what is wrong. To be fair, it is not something that can be easily troubleshot (troubleshooted?) remotely. Not even locally.

Furthermore I am interested in if anyone else:

- owns two Balances

- has tried stereo-pairing them

- has had the same issue as me.

What's my problem then?

Well, both of my non-GA Balances work perfectly, no flaws, they play beautifully both on their own as standalone speakers and in Beolink multiroom set up via the B&O app, using the same home wireless network that has very seldom shown signs of weakness, particularly since I have a good dose of access points in a mesh setup.

Then we come to stereo pairing. It is a fairly straightforward process in the B&O app. Choose a master = left-channel speaker, then link it to the right-channel speaker.

The moment I start actually using this stereo setup, the right-channel speaker starts dropping out. My experience of stereo music then becomes one where the left-channel speaker plays smoothly while the right-channel speaker keeps dropping out. As though muting and unmuting the right-hand speaker rapidly, with varying intensity or length, kind of like when signal keeps dropping out.

Swap around the speakers both physically and in the B&O app, and again it is the right-channel speaker dropping out. Then the speaker that used to be right-channel and that used to drop out, is now playing without a hick-up as the left-channel speaker.

As mentioned above, using the same home wireless network and the B&O app, the speakers each play back flawlessly in a Beolink multiroom setup. It is really only in stereo mode.

What else have I done?

Factory reset? Course, on both! Same issue after that too.

Ethernet cable? Ordered, set up, tested, actually working well, so stereo is working as expected wired.

Closer distance? Wirelessly but instead of the speakers standing about 2-3 meters from each other, the right-channel speaker would still keep dropping out even at a distance of about 30-40 cm (like a foot?) from the other.

Some more thoughts

Somehow I would think this is more of a software issue than a network issue, even if the latter cannot be ruled out strictly speaking. But if it is a network issue, why would Beolink multiroom work without a problem? At some point stereo mode even got disconnected on its own after a lot of drop-outs... or should I call them "signal interruptions" at this point?

B&O customer service in the end advised me to contact a local dealer to see if they could send a... wait for it... paid onsite technician to have it check. In my mind this is not too generous since these are brand new speakers and I would expect that something works as intended out of the box, or if it doesn't, then they should make sure it does for no extra cost to me. It also requires a lot of logistics and time and hassle that I could do without. There is no guarantee if a technician I would pay extra for, would actually find the cause of the problem.

Let me add that the whole case is more of an inconvenience for me than a deal-breaker because a workaround is of course to use Ethernet cables, and because stereo is simply another listening option for me but not my main means of consumption. What matters the most to me is really Beolink and thankfully that works like magic. I can even live with the issue of wirelessly paired stereo mode and hope that one day a B&O developer discovers that this is not only an issue but that could somehow be improved from the software side. But I'd be curious to know if anyone else may have had a similar experience. If not with the Balance, perhaps with the Level?

Thanks for reading and commenting!

Csaba

Good day. 

I have what some consider to be pretty good Streaming components. I have had no major problems with them, but they are notorious for not functioning as intended in less than perfect router-connectivity setups. I cannot get for instance Qobuz to connect to this system - yet Amazon and tidal work OK. Other owners comment on the opposite. 

I think it does happen a lot on modern equipment and echo-boxes like Beoworld may make you think it is only their products that have a problem. Its not. Far from it.

 

My solution. 

Take your new products to the Dealer and get him to set them up in his showroom. If they bond/bridge/connect, you have a site problem - which may not be B&Os problem. If they dont.....make it the Dealers problem. Unless there is acrid smoke pouring our of your product and it needs and engineer, paying for a home visit is not encouraging the Dealer to solve the problem. You are subsidising him.

I have reached out to you in an e-mail to get some more information - I will be happy to assist in some debugging as to why you are facing these issues.

Can you try to entirely disable the 2.4GHz SSID (ensuring the BS Balance are connected to the 5GHz band) in your routers/APs control panel, and see after that if the sound from the R speaker is still cutting out?

The Balance can't be stereo-paired running an Ethernet cable between the speakers (like Beolab 28), correct?

 

Mr 10Percent wrote:

My solution. 

Take your new products to the Dealer and get him to set them up in his showroom. If they bond/bridge/connect, you have a site problem - which may not be B&Os problem. If they dont.....make it the Dealers problem. Unless there is acrid smoke pouring our of your product and it needs and engineer, paying for a home visit is not encouraging the Dealer to solve the problem. You are subsidising him.

Thank you for answering :). Yes, I have thought about bringing the speakers to my dealer's but it is a bit of a job logistically. It would give me another perspective for sure but I would prefer solving it at home. Then again, it might be inevitable after the point of no return :).

c-larsen wrote:

I have reached out to you in an e-mail to get some more information - I will be happy to assist in some debugging as to why you are facing these issues.

Hey, that is very kind of you! However I have not received any personal message, I am afraid :(. I hope it is simply delayed.

c-larsen wrote:

I have reached out to you in an e-mail to get some more information - I will be happy to assist in some debugging as to why you are facing these issues.

Hey, that is very kind of you! However I have not received any personal message, I am afraid :(. I hope it is simply delayed.

matteventu wrote:

Can you try to entirely disable the 2.4GHz SSID (ensuring the BS Balance are connected to the 5GHz band) in your routers/APs control panel, and see after that if the sound from the R speaker is still cutting out?

The Balance can't be stereo-paired running an Ethernet cable between the speakers (like Beolab 28), correct?

 

Thank you for the tip. I think it is completely relevant to check out and might be useful to rule out. I am a bit hesitant to start messing with my network settings though, since both my partner and I work from home office, me for a business customer, so it would have to be tested at least on a weekend when I am alone. That's often a big ask :). For now I was mainly trying to gather some insight from others.

I did not wire the two Balances directly when testing a cabled setup, simply plugged each via its own Ethernet cable into the router. There are after all two Ethernet slots per speaker, so in theory it might be worth a check but my aim is to stereo-pair completely wirelessly.

Are they linked as a stereo pair in your Google Home app?

I ask because nothing I have paired via that mechanism has ever worked. I've been trying for 18 months with 2x original Google Home speakers and 2x third party (Polk) speakers, and all that happens is that one randomly drops out.

I have other symptoms as well, such as the devices randomly refusing to respond to "OK Google" commands, randomly complaining about a lack of wireless coverage, and so on. I've given up.

Not what you wanted to hear but if you bought your Balances to use as a pair, and there's time to return them, that's what I'd do.

Csaba wrote:

c-larsen wrote:

I have reached out to you in an e-mail to get some more information - I will be happy to assist in some debugging as to why you are facing these issues.

Hey, that is very kind of you! However I have not received any personal message, I am afraid :(. I hope it is simply delayed.

 

Okay, I only had the option to send an e-mail, maybe that function does not work.

 

It sounds like your problem is caused by WiFi interference on the wireless link between the two speakers. Could you answer a couple of questions:

1. Are your speakers connected to a 2.4 GHz or 5 GHz network?

2. Have you changed the default sound quality settings from the app? (default is to use LC3+)

 

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