kawo wrote:

But back to what Mikipedia mentioned, I tent to agree, think it as all about license cost,  might also be the reason why there is no room correction tech like Dirac or Audessy.

It is disappointing though that a setup as expensive as a B&O TV or processor doesn't have Audessy when a 400 dollar AVR does. I suppose B&O's idea was that the dealer would calibrate your setup...wait, what dealer?

Jeff wrote:

kawo wrote:

But back to what Mikipedia mentioned, I tent to agree, think it as all about license cost,  might also be the reason why there is no room correction tech like Dirac or Audessy.

It is disappointing though that a setup as expensive as a B&O TV or processor doesn't have Audessy when a 400 dollar AVR does. I suppose B&O's idea was that the dealer would calibrate your setup...wait, what dealer?

Maybe B&O/the sound guys at B&O just weren’t/aren’t found of what Audessy offers (in a Beolab environnement).

As for dealer or not dealer.....if you have bought a full fletched B&O setup, there must have been a dealer somewhere!

MM

Millemissen wrote:

Maybe B&O/the sound guys at B&O just weren’t/aren’t found of what Audessy offers (in a Beolab environnement).

Possible. What would B&O guys recommend as the alternative? I always search for the most B&O-like setup.

AnalogPlanet wrote:

Millemissen wrote:

Maybe B&O/the sound guys at B&O just weren’t/aren’t found of what Audessy offers (in a Beolab environnement).

Possible. What would B&O guys recommend as the alternative? I always search for the most B&O-like setup.

That is a really good question, that I have asked, too.....since I am an advocate for sound calibration and room compensation being done in the audio processor/Sound Center.

Untill now I have not had an answer!

Assisted setup/calibration of the speakers can be done in some cases e.g. the Avant 1 gen - but it is not a general feature for the BV’s.

However, you can do much manuall....if you are aware of how sound behaves in a room.

MM 

Tayne wrote:

And as far as the idea of BeoSound 9000 with modern integration..... give me a break. The industry as a whole hasn't manufactured an audio optical drive for almost a decade now, and what was perhaps considered the successor (BeoSound 5 & BeoSound Moment) to the BeoSound 9000 are perhaps some of the biggest failure of B&Os history.... Swiftly followed by Beo5, HDR2, DVD2 and BeoSound 3 (which should have had a total product recall).

There are still companies that do manufacture and optimize optical drives. T+A is just one example:
https://www.ta-hifi.de/en/audiosystems/hv-series/mp-3100-hv-multi-source-sacd-player-2/

There's a (niche) market and I think B&O can deliver a product that fits perfectly right into the market.

They could make a single disc multiformat player (overhauled DVD2 design for example, but this time mechanical reliable parts) or a disc changer in Beosound 9000 format that can read everything like CD, DVD, Blu-Ray, SACD.

A Beosystem 5 could have a chance on the market, not only with B&O customers but with every customer that uses active speakers!
There aren't that many surround preamps on the market, most of them are fully equipped amplifiers.

If B&O still has customers for a device with an optical drive, maybe - it's really hard to tell. I still listen to and buy new CD's and could be a possible buyer.

I have reflected many times about the fact that B&O not anymore support physical media, Cassette I can understand, CD - there might still be a small niche market if done right but a more certain success could be a new turntable at least if we look at the increasing sales of records for turntables (at least in DK).

To add to TWG, also Densen still have CD players in their product program:

... and honestly: having BL5 connected to a B&O TV is quite all you need (BL5 on BeoVision Avant 55) - I don't really care about surround anything - it's just great enough - really great I mean.... the sound ... and I'm quite glad to hear it's great on Harmony as well :-)

kawo wrote:

and I bought the Harmony which I never had plans for :-)  But this is just a damm good kit with my BL5. 

But back to what Mikipedia mentioned, I tent to agree, think it as all about license cost,  might also be the reason why there is no room correction tech like Dirac or Audessy.  

The two B&O shops I frequently visit and where I bought all my stuff both belong to a larger chain with in total more than 10 B&O shops. With the end of the good old Beoliving concept they both have no 5 channel setup anymore to demo. Their largest shop in Frankfurt has the BL90 in a separate room, but the Harmony with two BL50 and two BL17, but not properly setup. And and in a very large open area with a very high ceiling.... so I think no way it could convince a customer... at least not me :-)  

10 years back all three B&O shops (yes three at that point in time...) in my hometown had a full blown Beoliving setup, I need to ask them how many of those setup they have sold. 

Oh yes, Harmony and BL5 are really good! My old setup with the Beosystem 3 the center channel was always the problem. I had Bl7.4/7.1, a single BL3 but the center speaker never could keep up with the 5's. Not sure how much this would have improved with the Beosysem 4 and the much better audio in it. But with the Harmony is just one "wall of sound" from left to right. I would love to see how much a pair of BL50 could improve the experience in my room, but not sure if my shop wants lift the heavy elephants to my house just for my fun...