hobbes03 wrote:

Many thanks again Beojeff ! Will consider that. Yes the SONY VPL-H45/65ES have been added to the PUC list which are decent HD projectors. Do you use a 4K (UHD) or HD projector in connection with your Beosystem 4/Atlona? I started wondering if it's really worth to buy the 4K projector considering also KALLASR's / MMs and Sandyb's post and not being entirely sure if it will all work out as planned even with the HDFury or Atlona. Also contacted my B&O dealer to see what he suggests, imagining that I am not the first one to have this issue... Will keep you posted:)

I'm still using a Samsung 1080p projector, but I've been considering moving up to 4K. I, too, have been considering the Sony 4K projectors. Please do share your results.

I can't see why the workaround wouldn't work just the same as the workaround did for 3D when using the old BeoSystem 3 that didn't support 3D.

beojeff wrote:

I'm still using a Samsung 1080p projector, but I've been considering moving up to 4K. I, too, have been considering the Sony 4K projectors. Please do share your results.

I can't see why the workaround wouldn't work just the same as the workaround did for 3D when using the old BeoSystem 3 that didn't support 3D.

beojeff wrote:

hobbes03 wrote:

Many thanks again Beojeff ! Will consider that. Yes the SONY VPL-H45/65ES have been added to the PUC list which are decent HD projectors. Do you use a 4K (UHD) or HD projector in connection with your Beosystem 4/Atlona? I started wondering if it's really worth to buy the 4K projector considering also KALLASR's / MMs and Sandyb's post and not being entirely sure if it will all work out as planned even with the HDFury or Atlona. Also contacted my B&O dealer to see what he suggests, imagining that I am not the first one to have this issue... Will keep you posted:)

I'm still using a Samsung 1080p projector, but I've been considering moving up to 4K. I, too, have been considering the Sony 4K projectors. Please do share your results.

I can't see why the workaround wouldn't work just the same as the workaround did for 3D when using the old BeoSystem 3 that didn't support 3D.

I have some news: my B&O "solution manager" told me that the Beo6 would not allow me to see the menu like "speaker groups" etc on the display of the Beo6, thus he did not recommend to have a work-around (feeding audio and video separately to BS4/projector) if it is important to me to keep the functionality of the BS4. He first said that he expects B&O to release a 4K system in the near future but would check again with B&O directly. He then came back with the (sad) news that nothing is actually planned. :( He also consulted with his external supplier for projectors and confirmed that from 20ft /6m distance I would not be able to tell any difference from native 4K than from good 2K or upscaled 4K resolution. He thus recommended the new Epson TW9400W, which will be released in January,  with 2600 Lumen and only 20/24db noise-level in low/high mode, 4K upscaling and 2K FI... good thing would be that this system would be future proof with the latest 4K HDMI standard in case, B&O would change their mind in the future.. So I guess at the moment this would be the best bargain and no need for new optical HDMI cables etc etc, but I would even be willing to spend a little more to have the best image (which is not just about resolution) and maybe consider the Sony VW360 or VW270 if not only the upscaling but also the overall image quality is better than from the Epson. Will probably wait until the Epson is out and check with a dealer.

hobbes03 wrote:

beojeff wrote:

hobbes03 wrote:

Many thanks again Beojeff ! Will consider that. Yes the SONY VPL-H45/65ES have been added to the PUC list which are decent HD projectors. Do you use a 4K (UHD) or HD projector in connection with your Beosystem 4/Atlona? I started wondering if it's really worth to buy the 4K projector considering also KALLASR's / MMs and Sandyb's post and not being entirely sure if it will all work out as planned even with the HDFury or Atlona. Also contacted my B&O dealer to see what he suggests, imagining that I am not the first one to have this issue... Will keep you posted:)

I'm still using a Samsung 1080p projector, but I've been considering moving up to 4K. I, too, have been considering the Sony 4K projectors. Please do share your results.

I can't see why the workaround wouldn't work just the same as the workaround did for 3D when using the old BeoSystem 3 that didn't support 3D.

I have some news: my B&O "solution manager" told me that the Beo6 would not allow me to see the menu like "speaker groups" etc on the display of the Beo6, thus he did not recommend to have a work-around (feeding audio and video separately to BS4/projector) if it is important to me to keep the functionality of the BS4. He first said that he expects B&O to release a 4K system in the near future but would check again with B&O directly. He then came back with the (sad) news that nothing is actually planned. :( He also consulted with his external supplier for projectors and confirmed that from 20ft /6m distance I would not be able to tell any difference from native 4K than from good 2K or upscaled 4K resolution. He thus recommended the new Epson TW9400W, which will be released in January,  with 2600 Lumen and only 20/24db noise-level in low/high mode, 4K upscaling and 2K FI... good thing would be that this system would be future proof with the latest 4K HDMI standard in case, B&O would change their mind in the future.. So I guess at the moment this would be the best bargain and no need for new optical HDMI cables etc etc, but I would even be willing to spend a little more to have the best image (which is not just about resolution) and maybe consider the Sony VW360 or VW270 if not only the upscaling but also the overall image quality is better than from the Epson. Will probably wait until the Epson is out and check with a dealer.

I just checked on my Beo6. You can indeed see under the "Sound" menu all sound presets such as "Music," "Movie," etc. You also get a submenu for "Speaker Group" that gives you all of your speaker groups. The speaker groups are just numeric, but you could always label them to be more descriptive.

beojeff wrote:

hobbes03 wrote:

beojeff wrote:

hobbes03 wrote:

Many thanks again Beojeff ! Will consider that. Yes the SONY VPL-H45/65ES have been added to the PUC list which are decent HD projectors. Do you use a 4K (UHD) or HD projector in connection with your Beosystem 4/Atlona? I started wondering if it's really worth to buy the 4K projector considering also KALLASR's / MMs and Sandyb's post and not being entirely sure if it will all work out as planned even with the HDFury or Atlona. Also contacted my B&O dealer to see what he suggests, imagining that I am not the first one to have this issue... Will keep you posted:)

I'm still using a Samsung 1080p projector, but I've been considering moving up to 4K. I, too, have been considering the Sony 4K projectors. Please do share your results.

I can't see why the workaround wouldn't work just the same as the workaround did for 3D when using the old BeoSystem 3 that didn't support 3D.

I have some news: my B&O "solution manager" told me that the Beo6 would not allow me to see the menu like "speaker groups" etc on the display of the Beo6, thus he did not recommend to have a work-around (feeding audio and video separately to BS4/projector) if it is important to me to keep the functionality of the BS4. He first said that he expects B&O to release a 4K system in the near future but would check again with B&O directly. He then came back with the (sad) news that nothing is actually planned. :( He also consulted with his external supplier for projectors and confirmed that from 20ft /6m distance I would not be able to tell any difference from native 4K than from good 2K or upscaled 4K resolution. He thus recommended the new Epson TW9400W, which will be released in January,  with 2600 Lumen and only 20/24db noise-level in low/high mode, 4K upscaling and 2K FI... good thing would be that this system would be future proof with the latest 4K HDMI standard in case, B&O would change their mind in the future.. So I guess at the moment this would be the best bargain and no need for new optical HDMI cables etc etc, but I would even be willing to spend a little more to have the best image (which is not just about resolution) and maybe consider the Sony VW360 or VW270 if not only the upscaling but also the overall image quality is better than from the Epson. Will probably wait until the Epson is out and check with a dealer.

I just checked on my Beo6. You can indeed see under the "Sound" menu all sound presets such as "Music," "Movie," etc. You also get a submenu for "Speaker Group" that gives you all of your speaker groups. The speaker groups are just numeric, but you could always label them to be more descriptive.

Thanks for checking Jeff, grmbl, I guess my B&O guy hasn't dealt with many Beo6 remotes recently as they are no longer sold... (but second hand). It's a real pitty that the "old" B&O remote app that is no longer compatible with the new iOS12 is no longer supported by B&O, which actually allowed you to change sound-modes and speaker groups with your iPhone, was very useful to me... and the new app does not support this function (yet) - sometimes i really wonder what's happening at B&O...

In any case - I have decided to buy a projector that will be able to deal with HDMI2.0 and HDCP2.2, just in case i wanna exploit in the future the HDR / native 4K signal/movies with some sort of work around, or in case B&O would decide to bring some sort of 4K upgrade/replacement for the BS4...

So on my shortlist are: Epson TW9400W, Sony VW360 or VW270. Once the new epson (good value for money in any case) is out I will compare the image at a dealer with the Sony's and make up my mind. I also decided to buy a bigger "grey" screen (had matte white so far) to increase size from 108'' to 131'' and to improve luminosity/brightness due to my combined living room/homecinema set-up. I guess by these measure, I will get out the best image with my BS4 for now and also do not have to worry too much, in case I want to explore adding an additional device in the future.

Big thanks again to you for bearing with me in this thread, its really amazing how people are helping each other out here, much appreciated! :)

Hobbes,  did you find a solution to the 4K through a bs4 problem? I have a bs4 and 4K source (applets) and 4K Sony pj - I want to keep my bs4 but need to pass through 4K video.  Thanks. 

I currently use a e-shift 4K laser projector (LG HU810P) with my Beovision 8-40 : the Apple TV 4K is connected to the projector AND the TV with a cheap 4K splitter that can downscale an output to 1080p ( 

So are you connecting a splitter between the HDMI out of the soundcenter and the HDMIs of the LG screen and projector ? I'm thinking of this solution if I replace my BV8 to an Eclipse or Harmony...

Hi beojeff

Im not sure if i have asked this before, at this moment there is a beosystem 3 connected to bvis 4-65, and projector screen with blinds and lights, all working well, purchased beosystem 4, and will get a used atlona switch, do i route hdmi of bsys 4 into atlona then hdmi out of that in lnto bvis 4?