4K projector in combination with Beosystem4 possible?

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Hello

Is it possible to use a 4K projector in combination with the beosystem4 (and use the 4k resolution)?

I have a beosystem4 connected to two BeoLab 18 (Front), 7-1 (Center) and Beolab14 System (Sub+4 Rear Speakers). All speakers (with exception of the center speaker are connected via cat-cables to the Beosystem/Beo14 Sub/Hub). My AppleTV, TViX and NAS (connected to the TViX) are connected to the Beosystem4 and currently i project content to my 10 year old Sanyo PLV-Z4 projector, which is HD ready... as the lamp reaches its end of life with 3000 hrs I would like to upgrade to 4K projector as netflix and AppleTV content is getting more broadly available, and even HD content probably looks better "upscaled" on a 4K projector.

Today I spoke to a HiFi retailer, who said, I probably need to sell my beosystem 4 and get a proper A/V receiver like the Marantz SR-6013 and connect all speakers and projector to this system, which sounds like a nightmare to me..(cables/adapters changes, and not being able to use the beo4 remote as one remote for all my devices)...

Or simply buy an HD projector until a better solution becomes available? Was also thinking of buying an JVC-X7900 (HD but 4K e-shift option) but i guess when the signal that reaches the projector is HD only, the JVC won't uspscale it to 4k with e-shift...

thanks for any help!

 

hobbes03 wrote:

Hello

Is it possible to use a 4K projector in combination with the beosystem4 (and use the 4k resolution)?

I have a beosystem4 connected to two BeoLab 17 (Front), 7-1 (Center) and Beolab14 System (Sub+4 Rear Speakers). All speakers (with exception of the center speaker are connected via cat-cables to the Beosystem/Beo14 Sub/Hub). My AppleTV, TViX and NAS (connected to the TViX) are connected to the Beosystem4 and currently i project content to my 10 year old Sanyo PLV-Z4 projector, which is HD ready... as the lamp reaches its end of life with 3000 hrs I would like to upgrade to 4K projector as netflix and AppleTV content is getting more broadly available, and even HD content probably looks better "upscaled" on a 4K projector.

Today I spoke to a HiFi retailer, who said, I probably need to sell my beosystem 4 and get a proper A/V receiver like the Marantz SR-6013 and connect all speakers and projector to this system, which sounds like a nightmare to me..(cables/adapters changes, and not being able to use the beo4 remote as one remote for all my devices)...

Or simply buy an HD projector until a better solution becomes available? Was also thinking of buying an JVC-X7900 (HD but 4K e-shift option) but i guess when the signal that reaches the projector is HD only, the JVC won't uspscale it to 4k with e-shift...

thanks for any help!

Beosystem 4 is only full-hd, it’s only altered in avAbt 55” with extra cards. Unfortunately.

I would not give up the BSys4 for the sake of a 4K projector (they are still quite expensive, if you want quality).

Get yourself a decent HD projector with lots of lumen.....and enjoy the comfort of the BSys4, which a ‘proper A/V receiver‘ could never give you.

By the way - no ‘proper A/V receiver’ comes near to what the BSys4 offers for sound processing (with your B&O speakers).

Save the money (that what you save not buying into a 4K projector) for later....and see what the next 3-4 years will bring.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

Thanks MM I was thinking about the same line, given that I bought the BSys4+Speakers just two years ago.. and also fear that the combination of my speakers only work properly with the BeoSys4... your comment is re-assuring as I really like "one" system that works smoothly and provides superb sound.

My consideration for 4K was that my last projector lasted 10yrs and a new one should again last several years and 4K projectors have come down a bit in price recently. Spent 3hrs today exploring the different 4k options just realizing in the end that it would not be supported by the BSys4.

Are there any HD projectors that you (or the community) recommend in particular (as lots of lumen alone is also not everything, as high-lumen projectors can become quite noisy), was thinking of the Sony VPL-HW65ES (1800 Lumen), which is still sold and a PUC would already be available ;-) The X-7900 from JVC would be another option, even though I would probably not be able to enjoy the e-shift to 4K if the signal is 1080p i guess...

Thanks again!

I am currently reviewing the 4k Projectors from Optoma such as the UDx300 to connect with my Eclipse

using the current B& O speakers

would appreciate beoworlders thoughts on this

hobbes03 wrote:

Thanks MM I was thinking about the same line, given that I bought the BSys4+Speakers just two years ago.. and also fear that the combination of my speakers only work properly with the BeoSys4... your comment is re-assuring as I really like "one" system that works smoothly and provides superb sound.

My consideration for 4K was that my last projector lasted 10yrs and a new one should again last several years and 4K projectors have come down a bit in price recently. Spent 3hrs today exploring the different 4k options just realizing in the end that it would not be supported by the BSys4.

Are there any HD projectors that you (or the community) recommend in particular (as lots of lumen alone is also not everything, as high-lumen projectors can become quite noisy), was thinking of the Sony VPL-HW65ES (1800 Lumen), which is still sold and a PUC would already be available ;-) The X-7900 from JVC would be another option, even though I would probably not be able to enjoy the e-shift to 4K if the signal is 1080p i guess...

Thanks again!

I design lecture hall systems as part of my work and try to exclusively look more at laser projectors now for good picture quality and less service. They boot instantly, cool down instantly and require less air flow to keep cool. Superb in many ways.

However I also try to avoid DLP projectors due to the spinning color wheel effect when taking photos or for some people’s migraine risks.

You can calculate wether 4K is necessary or not depending on distance. I’d say that higher resolution is more important with text and graphics than video. For example when playing video games or presenting data.

But for most purposes full HD is sufficient in an auditorium due to the size, distance and for how people present data. In a home environment it is a bit different but here ultra short throw projectors are gaining momentum rapidly. Meaning, small projector at a table or high wall near the wall you’ll present your video on. I’m leaning towards one of those myself due to it’s convenience, less installation (shorter cables etc) and Less chance to walk in front of the projector ruining the video for people sitting down. (Important in action movies 😁).

I use a Beosystem4 with a 4K Sony A1E, (Oled TV) without issue. I have an Oppo UDP-203 which has two HDMI outputs one of which is audio only. I feed one HDMI output to the TV and the other to the Beosystem 4. If you decide on a TV/projector with any built in apps you can typically feed the audio back from the TV to the Beosystem4. Some users of the Oppo feed the Oppo with other 4K sources. I haven't tried this but many are reporting it works.

please note there are devices such as the products from HDFury which can separate the 4K video out from the Audio to feed to your TV/projector and receiver/processor individually.

Thx Michael - Laser is indeed an interesting option (especially if you frequently turn on/off the system). Saw today the Sony VPL-VW760ES and 870ES with superb UHD image quality but both are clearly beyond my budget and won't work with the BSys4. They also have an ultra-short distance version VPL-VZ1000 ES, pretty impressive too. Would need to investigate if there are interesting laser options in HD quality.

Thanks Pjk561 - hmm that sounds interesting - would need to investigate if there are projectors with HDMI output, could get a bit tricky to get two UHD-HDMI cables through my "AV pipe" in the concrete room ceiling though....

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