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Home Forums Product Discussion & Questions BeoGram Beogram 6500 arm stuck in position

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  • #70890
    CharlieWednesday
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    Here I am again!

    Earlier this year I bought a full Beosystem 6500 in white.  The Beocord needed new belts which I replaced myself, but the Beomaster had more complex issues, so I have had that repaired by John at Merlin.  I’ve just got it back and it’s fully working (thanks John!).

    I had only tested the Beogram turntable briefly before, but now that I have the Beomaster back from repair, I set up the whole system and I think for the first time played a whole album (or side 1, anyway).  It played fine, but then when it finished playing, I heard an unpleasant clicking noise, and when I lifted the lid, the arm was raised but stuck in position above the record – it appears to have tried to return to the right, but had only moved a centimetre or so, and stuck there.

    With some difficulty I remove the record and removed the platter and wheel.  When I removed the wheel and belt that sit below the platter, the motor was spinning constantly as though stuck in play mode.  I have disconnected it from the mains, but if I reconnect, that motor starts spinning.

    On the inside, I notice that the raise/lower cog is in the wrong place and I cannot turn it manually more than a few mm either way.  The main cogs that drive the arm however are completely stuck – no movement at all.  If you try to move the arm left or right, it is also completely stuck in place.  Obviously, I don’t want to force anything for fear of causing damage.  I’ve managed to fix a Beogram 9500 before (the wire drive had come loose) but I’m stuck here.

    I have attached photos of what I see inside, in the hope that one of the experts here might recognise the problem.

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    Location: Liverpool

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    #70895
    CharlieWednesday
    GOLD Member

    Minor update – I have managed to get the raise/lower cog (part 1636 in the service manual) back to it’s correct position.  The start/stop cog (part 1604) is still stuck firstly in position and will not move at all.

    I am unable to unscrew and lift the top panel to get a better look inside as the arm is stuck in a position that doesn’t give clearance for that.  I suppose I could disconnect the wire drive from the sliding chassis in order to move the arm and then lift the lid, but I’m reluctant to do that, especially since I am really not sure if it will help.

    I have looked inside my Beogram 9500 for comparison and the raise/lower cog 1636 is now in the same position as the 9500.  In the 9500 the arm can easily be moved by pushing it, and the start/stop cog 1604 can be moved easily (if reluctantly!), but on the 6500, both of those the arm and the start/stop 1605 cog are stuck very firmly and will not move at all.

    Location: Liverpool

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    #70919
    CharlieWednesday
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    Today I plucked up the courage to disconnect the wire drive that moves the tonearm.  With that disconnected the tonearm moves smoothly, but it made no difference to the start/stop cog (part 1604) – still completely stuck in position.  I can see nothing broken so I’m sure it’s something out of place in the mechanism, but I’m buggered if I can find it.

    Location: Liverpool

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    #70926
    Mark-sf
    BRONZE Member

    This is very hard to triage remotely. Are you saying that if you attempt the “In/Out travel of the pickup arm” instructions that cam wheel Z (1604) does not rotate? Is Swingring Y frozen as well?

    #70928
    CharlieWednesday
    GOLD Member

    I realise it’s not easy to triage remotely, so thanks yery much for trying.

    Yes, exactly as you have said.  Cam Wheel Z (1604) is frozen in place.  So is Swingring Y.  As a result of those being frozen Wire Pulley A is also frozen, even if I remove the wire.

    If I do remove the wire from Wire Pulley A, the tonearm moves smoothly, so the only thing that I can gather so far is that the tonearm is not the cause of the problem.

    Location: Liverpool

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    #70948
    Mark-sf
    BRONZE Member

    My approach would be to start disassembling the mechanism to determine when it frees up.

    #70955
    CharlieWednesday
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    Yes I’m sure you’re right.  I don’t think I’m confident enough to do that myself.  I’ll take another look at it tonight but it seems likely I’ll need to get a professional to look at it.

    I know Multicare will be able to fix it, but I was just hoping to avoid a long drive to Leeds!

    Location: Liverpool

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    #70958
    Mark-sf
    BRONZE Member

    You have pictures so as long as you don’t break tabs you should be fine.

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