Beomaster 6000 with a fault in the power supply

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Hi,

I hope someone can help me solve this problem:

I have a 80s Beomaster 6000 that I bought as a spares unit some time ago.

But now I finally wanted to restore it and I'm having a little problem:

I tested all boards in an other 6000 - they all work fine (well, the output amplifier has some problems, but thats another thing).

The only thing not working is the power supply.

As soon as I plug it in the 160mA fuse blows. So I can't even measure the voltages.

I replaced the obvious faulty parts first - C20 and 21 (the two big caps) were leaking. Sadly I couldn't get a hold of -10 +50% caps, so I used +/-20% ones.

That didn't change anything...

Is it possible that this is caused by a broken relay? The BM had some kind of water (or rather oil) damage - this (hydraulic?) thing that opens the programming lid leaked and the relay got 'wet' (at least on the outside, looks ok otherwise).

Hi,

you can use a regulated DC power supply and connect it to the big caps. Then you can test every power path of the psu and locate the short cut.

Martin

Hi = I cam't get a look at the Service Manual for the 6000 'cause the PDF is faulted - but have you checked the power transformer also the bridge rectifiers? (I'm assuming the 6000 is similar to the 5000 PSU-wise) = Brian (Northumberland)

hi ablaumeise!

a look into the service manual shows, that the 160 mA fuse handels the lower voltage section, which provides voltages for ic´s etc. so it could be leaking caps C1 3300μF(or slightly higher, if you can´t get hold of this value) or C10 2200μF. another posibility is broken ics in voltage regulation IC1 BDX34A or TR1 BC547B or IC2 MC 7815 CT (=15 volt regulator); also check diodes...

good luck + nice holidays!

 

jens

 

Yes, seeing C1 on module 16 shorted is quite common.

Martin

Many thanks for all the answers.

To answer the questions that occurred: Yes, the transformer and the rectifiers are working.

I desoldered C1 and C10 to have a closer look at them...as far as I can tell they are ok. They are not obviously leaking or something like that.

I will have a closer look at the other components Jens mentioned in the next days.

If I find no other failed components I will replace those two caps to see if that changes anything.

Put an ohmmeter across C1. You can't tell if a capacitor is good merely by looking at it.

Martin

When you unsoldered those caps did you try switching on to see if the fuse was still blowing? = Brian (Northumberland)

More tests = Can you read the cct diagram?  If so, try isolating the sections of PSU until the fuse stops blowing - this way you will narrow the fault down to one section.  For example: on module 16 dis pin 3 of IC2 also TR4 - if the fuse still blows, the fault is in that cct! Try this with other sections until you have isolated the faulty one.  Thanks for coming back - keep us all informed = Brian (Northumberland) 

Just to be sure that the fault is in the PSU (module 16), can you unplug it and run it unloaded and see if the fuse still blows? 

I think I would then do the isolating tests on the three (bridge rectifier load circuits) sections of the PSU. Hope this makes sense!

Dillen wrote:

Put an ohmmeter across C1. You can't tell if a capacitor is good merely by looking at it.

Martin

Sorry, I have no idea how to test if a capacitor is working or not...

Resistance is 0Ω....I guess that means it is broken?

blong wrote:

When you unsoldered those caps did you try switching on to see if the fuse was still blowing? = Brian (Northumberland)

Just tested that...and it works (well, or something like that)! With C1 unsoldered the fuse doesn't blow, some digits light up and the volume motor starts running.

I will see if I can get a replacement.

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