beogram 6006 platter not moving, coils are humming

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hello everyone!

i exchanged all caps on this about one or two years ago and everything was working fine since then. until last week.... the deck started with problems not speeding up to 33.33 rpm, 45 still worked, then it worked fine again for one day, meanwhile it doesn´t move at all, just the coil (the outer one) makes a loud humming and after a while the fuse next to the transformer blows.all voltages coming from the voltage regulations are correct.

first i renewed the transistors 0tr2 and 0tr3 next to the coils and the two diodes there. no improvement, then i checked all solder joints on the edge connectors and resoldered them - no improvement. then i recognized the the transistor ( ithink it´s a BD 438)  on the small outer surplus pcb went hot and renewed it - nothing changed.

what do you think would be the best next step? changing the transistors involved in the steering of the coils or is it more likely, the coils get the wrong signals from the main ic?

thanks for your help!

any ideas are very much appreciated...

greetings from a now sunny and warm munich!

 

jens

 

p.s.: when i unplug the leads going to the coils of course the fuse wont blow, as it´s the coils which are drawing to much power... i measured resistance over the coils and it is similar to the coils on my Beogramm 8000 (yes i confess: i´ve got this as well, as i always have to buy it, when i see a nice piece, which is not working and needs some help... that´s kind of a sentimental disfunction [:'(] )

 

Hi Jens

Contact Martin(dillen) member of beoworld his en expert on beogram's

regards

jan

Does the platter rotate freely by hand or does it bind ?

Martin

hi martin!

the platter isn´t mechanically blocked, it rotates completly freely.

greetings!

jens

 

Did you replace all the caps in the kit ?

Martin

Hi Jens m

Then I think you must suspect the coils maybe one of them is shortened,which the humming may indicate.

 

regards

jan

I had a (non B&O) inductive drive turntable, and the insulation on one of the coils disintegrated with age - the symptoms were as you describe. 🙁 

hi martin!

yes, i replaced all electrolytic caps, also the one inside the cpu-case, except c19 and c40, as i hadn´t new ones, that fitted there by the hand. it didn´t work when i got it one year ago, but after changing the caps and fitting your tachodisk, it worked perfectly for a year.

 

hi jan and ray!

i measured resistance over the coils and it´s quite exactly the same as in my beogram 8000, so my guess was, the coil shouldn´t be shorted.

 

thanks a lot for your input to all!

 

jens

Hi Jens M

Why do you not try to cut the the connection to the coils one by one and see what happens

regards

jan

latest news:

i replaced the two caps, which were old, but measuring them showed, they were not shorted and still had their full capacity.

o.k., then i put the subplatter back in the gram, what i didn´t do for my last tests and found out, that it´s moving again, the right direction, but not very stable, it reaches more or less 33.33rpm according to the display, the same with 45rpm.

strange thing is, the platter starts spinning as soon as i connect the beogram to the mains. so perhaps i have to check the reset circuit for the ic?

thanks for your help!

i´ll keep you informed...

jens

p.s.: humming is still there.

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