M-Series speakers

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Considering the unfortunate beginning with my restored Beomaster 4400 it “appears” the main issue was not the amplifier but rather the new placement of the S120.2 speakers combined with this amp.

 

True, my Beomaster 4500 manages to produce a better, more well balanced sound with these speakers, it too requires tone adjustment.

 

If the Beomaster 4400 was not doing such a superb job with my S75 speakers, I honestly would have believed (and did for a time) that something was very wrong with this amp.  

 

In response it has been suggested that I replace the S120.2 speakers with M-series speakers.

 

Frankly, before I go to this expense I would dearly love to know from our esteemed experts if you feel any of the M-series speakers would make a positive difference in my home environment.

 

While I admire the S120.2 speakers for what they can do with a violin, or perhaps more so for a harpsichord performance, overall I find them WAY too bright in the upper end and woefully lacking in the bass.

 

As such my S75 speakers are a major improvement over the S120.2 speakers and I am wondering if the iconic M-series would find a welcome home here with my admitted taste for less treble and more bass?

 

And if so, which of these speakers do you recommend?

 

Jeff

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Buy and try.
We can't tell you how it will sound in your ears anyway.

If you like disco, I suggest you try a pair of 1980s JAMO Power speakers. They will
provide the punchy sound, you strive for and with their high effiency, they will also give you the volume.
The JAMO Power 555 is the only speaker, I've heard so far, that do what my Beomaster 8000 tells it to without asking.

Martin

I would go with Martin's suggestion. I like my M100s but I think you may find them too sedate.

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Hi Martin and Peter,

 

I quite agree it is all but impossible to judge another person’s taste.

 

I do wonder about Peter’s comment that I might find M-100’s a bit sedate. Interesting choice of adjective. I wonder if Peter would describe the S45.2 speakers as sedate? If so then I understand although I would call the S45.2’s mellow….. ah beaten to death with semantics.

 

I will no doubt check out these JAMO speakers as you guys have piqued my curiosity.

 

Jeff

Location: Victoria, British Columbia

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I have two pairs of M70s and love them.

But check this out - when I restored M70 Pair 1 (it's documented in the archive - M70 Rescue and Adoption or something like that) - I compared them to S40s and S45-2s I had on hand.  At the time I preferred the S40s just barely over the S45-2s, with both of those pairs head and shoulders over the M70s.  A year later and now I prefer the M70s clearly over the S45-2s, which in turn are preferred head and shoulders over the S40s.

What's going on here with my preference changes?  I don't know.  But my point is, why not live with your new piece(s) a bit longer before making any more buying decisions?

Hi Rich,

 

Your suggestion is pretty much my plan and thank you.

 

It is a real shame about the S120.2 speakers as I truly enjoyed them when they were on the floor in my dining room. I especially liked to walk back from them about 12 feet and the clarity was remarkable…. I really thought I had a winner in their choice.

 

That same clarity I find grating now that these speakers are waist-level. Sort of like a clarinet, a lovely instrument in its proper environment, but if one was to have it played about a foot from your ear, the clarinet would quickly loose its charm.

 

The simple solution would be to swap speakers again, however the S75’s that currently reside in my dining room were gifts to show me what these speakers could do; and to be blunt, although the sound quality is superb, the cosmetic condition of the veneers leaves much to be desired.  

 

The S120.2’s on the other hand are flawless, in as-new condition.

 

One more thing, I have dropped this point as I pretty much beat it to death, but although my new addition Beomaster 4400 is performing without a hitch at the moment, I am simply NOT convinced that the total disappearance of anything resembling bass with my original set-up is not an internal solder issue with the speaker connections. It is working now and I just don’t want the unnecessary aggravation to find the problem resurrects with another speaker change.

 

The current set-up in the living room is not ideal in that the Beomaster 4500/Beogram 4500-CD player combination is too large for the allotted space, but the sound quality is quite acceptable with a minor adjustment (-1/+1 treble/bass respectively). Why the Beomaster 4400 couldn’t do the same has again been thrashed into the ground.

 

So I’ll do as you suggested and enjoy what I have for awhile.

 

Thanks.

 

Jeff

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Guys, I know it is tough to make a judgment call on someone else’s taste, but I have the opportunity to acquire a nice pair of M-70 speakers, but before I do I would like to know how the M70’s compare to my S75’s, used as a common reference point. What sort of difference might I expect to find?

 

My affection of bass potential is almost too well known at this point, but this need for bass is not restricted to the dance music of the late seventies, there is also Saint-Saens Organ Symphony.

 

In any case your views on how these two speaker systems differ; strengths and or weaknesses would be greatly appreciated.  

 

Jeff

Location: Victoria, British Columbia

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If I were you, if you want B&O speakers , I would look for MS150s. They should satisfy any yearnings for bass.

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Thank you Peter,

 

I rather expected you would say something like you did and in doing so; saving me from plausible disappointment and needless financial expense.

 

I used to work with a lady who loved to say, “You will [fill in the blank] if you know what’s good for you.” Well I pretty much know what’s good for me and I am taking your advice.

 

It is not like to do not already have a choice of speakers from which to choose.

 

If I want to fully enjoy a delicate piece, say harpsichord or something with a lot of sting instruments, without hesitation I would chose the mighty Linn Isobaric speakers as you’d be hard pressed to find a speaker to match the clarity and balance of these heavy gems with stated range of 20Hz-20K and 500 watts per channel capacity.

 

On the other hand if I want to listen to Saint-Saens Organ Symphony at full effect I would choose the McIntosh ML-2 speakers with their two 12” woofers in each speaker. I purchased these speakers new in 1971 and they are 100% original with only the woofer foam surrounds replaced in 1995. They survived my misspent youth so I can pretty much say they are indestructible.

 

I mention my other speakers only because they are a known quantity to me. In a perfect world wanting to purchase a new pair of speakers I would go out to a proper retailer and listen to speakers in a controlled environment in order to make an educated choice. Well, unfortunately I can’t do that here on Vancouver Island, so the next best thing is to ask people who really know about stereo systems…… which is what I am doing.

 

My goal here is return my Beomaster 4400 to its prominent place of honor among my stereo “collection” in the living room with an appropriate pair of speakers to match its power and potential. I would then return the Beomaster 4500/Beogram 4500-CD and S120.2 speakers to the dining room where the speaker placement is perfect for this particular set-up.

 

I could move the tattered pair of S75 speakers along with the Beomaster 4400, but I had come to believe that the M-series speakers are a quantum leap above the S75 speakers. Am I wrong in thinking this?

 

Jeff

Location: Victoria, British Columbia

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