sodoi18 wrote:

Below is a brief background and request for information

Current 7.1 Setup:

Using an ONKYO TX-NR709 receiver (4k resolution capable) - LINK

· Beolab 1 as front left/right

· Beloab 2 as sub

· Beolab 7.1 as center

· Beolab 6000/4000 as rear additional speakers

· I am using a Non B&O Samsung SUHD (KS8000) 65” TV which is 4k capable.

Below are my questions while hoping to add Beosystem 3 type 9606 and replace the ONKYO AV receiver my current setup of:

Questions:

1. Can Beosystem 3 hadnle 4k resolution if I connect my Samsung via DVI to HDMI

2. If I decide to connect TV outside of beosystem 3 - directly - assuming that the Beosystem 3 cannot handle 4k resolution - in this case can I use Beosystem 3 for audio processing only?

3. How best can i setup the item 2 configuration

Any help is greatly appreciated

Why that? I thought in terms of picture processing (SD conten) the BS3 is superior. 

A bit hard to answer these questions - so yes and no! *

What is your intension?

Do you (just) want to connect the sound output of the tv - assumeably via spdif-out?

Or do you have further devices connected to the tv - and want the sound from these connected directly to the BSys3?

And why/for which reasons would you want to use the BSys3 and not the Onkyo?

Did you know, that you actually can connect the BeoLabs to the receiver using the preouts of this?

* Question 1 though, definitely is a NO!

MM

• What is your intension?
• Want to benefit from the sound processing of BS3 - instead of Onkyo assuming BS3 does a better job

• Do you (just) want to connect the sound output of the tv - assumeably via spdif-out?
• Yes - if BS3 would still process the audio if I don't have video running through it - The TV can directly play the video.The other alternate would be to run non 4k video throught BS3 and then play the 4k video directly to TV - again, I am not sure if the SPDIF out from TV will work with this setup

• And why/for which reasons would you want to use the BSys3 and not the Onkyo?
• Integration of all B&O speakers with B&O receiver.  I am not sure if BS3 is technically superior to ONKYO in both AV processing - my assumption was BS3 would do a better job with at least Audio

• Did you know, that you actually can connect the BeoLabs to the receiver using the preouts of this?
• This is how I have it connected now - using the B&O speakers with ONKYO

I too would like information on this topic. I have a Beosystem 4 which has been confirmed by B&O not to pass 4K so in its future I would just like to pass audio to it. I'm confident that it can be done. One item I have been considering is the HDFury Integral which can separate the audio out of the HDMI stream. I may have to combine it with the HDFury Linker.  HDFury has a new model in the works which may combine the two. If anyone has had success at just passing 5.1 audio please post. Thanks

pjk561 wrote:

I too would like information on this topic. I have a Beosystem 4 which has been confirmed by B&O not to pass 4K so in its future I would just like to pass audio to it. I'm confident that it can be done. One item I have been considering is the HDFury Integral which can separate the audio out of the HDMI stream. I may have to combine it with the HDFury Linker. HDFury has a new model in the works which may combine the two. If anyone has had success at just passing 5.1 audio please post. Thanks

mjmedlo wrote:

I've done this with an Oppo BluRay.

Send one HDMI to the panel (3rd party) and one to the bsys3.

No problem with that.

Thanks,mjmedlo

I glad to hear that works as I have considered that option as well with the new Oppo UDP-203. One of my concerns is timing issues between audio and video when the TV has to do upscaling. We'll see how that plays out.

sodoi18 wrote:

 

• Do you (just) want to connect the sound output of the tv - assumeably via spdif-out?
• Yes - if BS3 would still process the audio if I don't have video running through it - The TV can directly play the video.The other alternate would be to run non 4k video throught BS3 and then play the 4k video directly to TV - again, I am not sure if the SPDIF out from TV will work with this setup

 

Connecting sound through one of the spdif/coax-ins would be like connecting any other (sound) source.

You would need to configure this input and activate it using the given conmands on the Beo4.

Speaking of sound processing/sound quality.

Something that you should consider:

If you have a bluray player connected to the tv - you won't be able to benefit from the lossless audio formats/the HD formats.

Even if you let the player convert to multichannel PCM, it will not be transferred to the BSys3 via spdif.

S/PDIF supports the following formats:

Single channel PCM (Mono)

Dual channel PCM (Stereo)

Compressed bitstreams up to 48Khz/16bps using AC3 (Dolby Digital) or DTS encoding mechanisms.

Surround audio across S/PDIF can only be achieved using AC3/DTS.

Multichannel PCM is not possible over S/PDIF (but is possible over HDMI).

But maybe this does not bother you?

Another thing to consider:

You will have no feed back for the (audio) settings and commands, since there is no display connected using the BSys3 for sound only.

At least for an initial configuration of the sound/speakers, you would need to have a BVtv/screen connected

MM

Thanks for your reply and time. The samsung tv has a one connect box with an HDMI with ARC.

can this hdmi with arc be connected to bs3 as one of the hdmi input and get audio that way to bs3, instead of using the Toslink to coax into bs3.

will this work?