BeoSound 5 Not Recognizing CD ID and Track Names

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beorumples wrote:

Will the Bliss Music Tagger software display album art on BS5 when just playing a CD and not ripping it??

Hi

Probably not, as the software resides somewhere other than the ripper.

B

I have been provided with assistance from the Guildford,UK dealership of B&O and am establishing a work around to replace the ripping facility on the BeoSound 5 with an appropriate ripper on a computer in my home network.

I was able to connect the BeoMaster 5 disk to my iMac in Finder using instructions in a Technical Information document issued by B&O in March 2017, which replaces the defunct BeoConnect software.

In short you need to establish the IP address and User Name of your BS-5 in MODE-> SETTINGS-> NETWORK INFO->

and set a client password on the BS5 in MODE-> SETTINGS -> NETWORK SETTINGS,

which you get to by pressing the > button twice then GO when at the SETTINGS stage.

Then using the IP address and the new password, set up the BM-5 as a server on your home networked computer (through your internet router).  On a Mac go to Finder-> GO -> Connect to Server and complete the dialog with the the user NAME (default is BM-USER) and password, saving the latte to the keychain for repeated easy access.  This puts the MB5 disk as a shared drive on the computer to which you can drag and drop music files and associated metadata that you have ripped on the computer.

My remaining question to you ALL out there is what kind of file types will a BeoSound 5 play...that are lossless in terms of audio quality.

The BS-5 device itself copies CD data to Windows Media Audio (.wma files) but reading around I can see FLAC is a free software that compresses audio to a ZIP like .flac file format which plays back as lossless audio.  But before I pollute my BM5 disk with unwanted audio files I need to know if the BeoSaound 5 can play .flac files?  Or what other lossless files?

Mike

 

As BM5 is pointing to a third party service provider, wouldn't it be possible to make the BM5 point to http://www.freedb.org ?

Gerard and others, I do not follow the pointing of the BM-5 at anything on the internet, it is the other way round.  Use your computer to point at the BM-5 and use a software installed on your computer to rip and relay internet derived metadata to the folder simultaneous with the ripping action.

I tried "Switch" software to rip and assign metadata and although it ripped ok I wasn't able to customise the metadata to suit the layout that the BeoSound 5 expects and displays.

I was then recommended "dBpoweramp" software by a B&O engineer and it has worked a dream.

If you have the BeoMaster 5 drive connected as a server/network drive on your computer, simply set the destination folder to the Music folder on the BeoMaster 5 disk.  The output appears on my BeoSound 5 screen exactly as if I had ripped it on the B&O device.

A 21 day evaluation trial of dBpoweramp is possible from the website before you buy and marketing material is reassuring on issues such as Malware prevention.

The dBpoweramp software will rip in 8 levels of Lossless Flac and Uncompressed, with a default at Lossless Level 5, which results in 96-99% accuracy. The album artwork is selected from the internet by choosing an image to your own preference of graphic content and file size/resolution.

This means the BeoSound 5 can remain in my home rather than becoming an obsolete piece of junk.

I bought the BS5 some month ago to have a all in one ripping solution for my wife, until now I ripped my CD collection on PC with EAC Exact Audio Copy and then finished tagging with MP3tag, all files are stored on my NAS.

It's the "plug n' play" solution of the BS5/BM5 that I'm searching. Otherwise I think BS5E would have been good to.

Dear Mike,

could you explain a little bit more in detail the structure of the BS5 ripped

I used to ripp my CDs with EAC, as my BS5 does not connect to any Datserver anymore, I do not know the structure because I never ripped a CD with it, only got it in late 2017

Thanks

gerard

Gerard,

Structure? Of what? Is this a hardware question or a data question?

I'm not sure that I understand, but I will re-iterate what I did in case it answers your problem.

You have a NAS drive for your ripped music files, presumably on a local home network linked through your router.  I assume you have a BeoMaster 5 in the system.

Similarly I have a network disk - B&O hardware controlled by the BeoMaster 5 box - and the BeoSound 5 is the front end linked via CAT 6 and video cable.

Since the B&O service to rip and tag files ended I have installed software called "dbpoweramp Music Converter" and "Perfect Tunes" on my computer, together these are a big improvement on the quality of ripping and the finding of image files for the album artwork.  They are very reasonably priced and available for Windows and Mac OS.  Perfect Tunes will search your disk for legacy missing artwork and offer the alternatives you can select to complete your collection. dbpoweramp Music Converter will let you choose the rip format ( I use flac lossless) and find the album artwork.

I found the default setting for the metadata output of "dbpoweramp Music Converter" worked fine with the BeoSound 5, avoiding the need to build a bespoke script to structure the album folders and track files and their names - the output matches what the BS-5 needs.  I did test other ripping software where this was an issue, requiring extra skills.

The only thing you need to do is mount your NAS disk so your computer running the ripping software can see it as a destination for the ripped files and artwork.  Your BeoSound 5 must already see it and the new files will appear on the screen after you restart it.

I hope this helped.

Mike

Hi Mike,

it's the structure of the metadata that I'm looking for.

Which tags are used by the BM5?

I've contacted the customer support on this and here's the answer:

Guten Tag ,
 
meines Wissens versuchen die Kollegen der Entwicklungsabteilung, einen entsprechenden Ersatz zu finden, das scheint allerdings hinsichtlich der Datenkompatibilität und rechtlichen Hürden nicht ganz einfach zu sein. Wenn es nur darum ginge, im System einen Link durch einen anderen zu ersetzen, wäre es längst gemacht worden - noch bevor die andere Datenbank abgeschaltet hätte. Aktuell kann ich Ihnen also wirklich nur die manuelle Eingabe "anbieten", ich habe die entsprechenden Schritte als Anhang zusammengefasst.
 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
 
K.... E...........
BeoCare
This answer says that the development team is searching for a solution.
I hope this is true.
gerard

Hi Gerard,

any news on this? 

Would be very happy, if the BeoSound5 CD ripping device would display covers while playing CD.

Tagging is not my issue, I use (good old) CoverScout… but it would be nice to see, which CD is in the Player ;-)

Thanks for an info.

Best regards

Doc Leisure

Hi DocLeisure

No I did not get any news from BeoCare . It seems the only solution is to ripp your CD to the harddisk or on your NAS an play it as digital music which reads the cover art from the file tag.

Very disappointing from beo support.

I think I will write once more to them and post the answer here.

regards

gerard

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