Beogram 4002 (5513) Mexico

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I am starting slowly on my BG 4002, opened it up, the wood frame loose and missing some spacers to hold it steady, the belts must have been replaced at some point they look good.

The voltage selector is the well known non working type, this deck is 117V only. There is one big cap 1000 uF 50 V it has 3 wires connected, 2 at the top and one at the bottom, with what do I change it ??

I checked the mechanical moving parts and all was like too heavy moving, so I applied oil where needed, let it soak in a couple of minutes, connected the main power to my variac and my DMM to the 30 V supply and slowly increased to 120 V the 30V OK and nothing smoked.

Pressed 33 the motor started running, pressed 45 and nothing happened, pressed start, the tonearm assembly moved to center and back, I did that a couple of times to get the oil worked in on shafts and the threaded spindle

As I dont have a cartridge I set the tracking scale to "0" attached a screw to the tonearm witha cable strap, and balanced it to "0" set the scale to 1,5, put back the belt platter, belt and the record platter, put on a 7" record and pressed start, tonearm moved, light in 33 display, light in detector arm, light in photo sensors detected record and the speed switched to 45, light in 45 display tonearm lowered, a small touch to the tonearm and it started moving to center and then back to start..tried the 45 switch again but still not working.

I then started dismantling, first the switch board, and here you see the switch assembly, only the 45 switch is very dark, the rest less so, with a fiberglass brush I could get into the switches for cleaning, I will go after each switch with Deoxit later on.

Then onto the PCB 1, looks good no burning marks and no components visibly damaged, I will change the electrolytic caps and measure the tantalums, all the trimmers look ugly so they will go too

More to come

 

 

 

Location: Mexico city

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A nice clean turntable Søren.That is a 4002 type 5513 and not a 5523?  I've never come across a 5513. It will be interesting to see what the differences are.

John

If I may offer one small suggestion:  clean the relay contacts while you're in there.

I went a little farther today, took out the plexi with the pin codes on it to get at the switches under it. I then took inventory for a Mouser order which hopefully will arrive next week, tomorrow I will start cleaning and lubricating where needed, I will also try to make some guide washers for the wood frame I found pieces of the old ones all over the inside of the deck.

And here my genius solution to check without cartridge

Location: Mexico city

Retired
Printing machine technician
Restored various 1960-70 items
Rock and Roll music
Collecting Vinyl
Restored Jukebox Wurlitzer 1050

Where can I get a cartridge like that? Yes indeed, Danish engineering at it finest!

 

I really look forward to this restoration in part because I have three 4000 series Beograms (as you know) and am interested in what you encounter.

 

As these machines age they all develop their own “quirks” giving them “personality” that I suspect you will come to admire. At least I hope so as I had fun fiddling with my trio….. OK some frustration, but that comes with the territory.

 

Søren, I admit I am not going to toss my MMC20CL or MMC6000 cartridges in favor of a big, fat machine screw, but I do admire your ingenuity in solving the weight issues of a missing cartridge.

 

Buena suerte con su nuevo proyecto. ¡Saludo! 🤒

 

Jeff

Location: Victoria, British Columbia

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Piaf wrote:
Søren, I admit I am not going to toss my MMC20CL or MMC6000 cartridges in favor of a big, fat machine screw, but I do admire your ingenuity in solving the weight issues of a missing cartridge.

I was hoping that you would send one immediately 😁

Necessity teaches the naked man to spin

Location: Mexico city

Retired
Printing machine technician
Restored various 1960-70 items
Rock and Roll music
Collecting Vinyl
Restored Jukebox Wurlitzer 1050

Gosh Søren, I swear I about fell out of my chair reading your, “I was hoping that you would send one immediately,” comment. Thank you very much for the Laugh! 😁

 

Oddly enough I was just playing my Beomaster 2400-2/Beogram 4004/S75 speaker combo featuring Nana Mouskouri’s Greatest Hits and the thought came to me how much you are going to enjoy your newly acquired Beogram 4002. And you will, of course.

 

Anyway, the stylus got stuck on Enas Mithos and this frankly NEVER happens as I have taken reasonable good care of my records and none of the Beograms is out of adjustment…. but whatever, this time I thought about your machine screw and if it would help with the stuck stylus.

 

Then I went to the computer and read your post, and honestly, I really could have fallen out of my chair laughing. The timing was so perfect.

 

Søren, my friend, you made my day! THANK YOU.

 

Jeff

Location: Victoria, British Columbia

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Glad I made your day, Richard (Ricardo) made mine, as of now a MMC20EN is on the way to Mex. city, I made him a set of speaker stands 2 years ago, and I am making a second set for him now, and he has send me spare, parts different plugs for B&O, cables for connections and now he send the MMC20EN. All free of charge, he wont even let me pay for shipping.

One gets a lot of very good friends on this forum, a pity one doesnt meet them, I will have to do a US tour one day

Location: Mexico city

Retired
Printing machine technician
Restored various 1960-70 items
Rock and Roll music
Collecting Vinyl
Restored Jukebox Wurlitzer 1050

The package is suppose to arrive Wednesday so get busy fixin' Soren.

It is in Memphis TN right now

Congratulations Søren on your MMC20EN cartridge and kudos to Richard (Ricardo) for being such a good friend. That is what BeoWorld is all about! 🤒

 

You will like your MMC20EN cartridge as it has a wonderful tone and less “fussy” than the MMC20CL. Perhaps I should word that more forgiving.

 

I have a MMC4000 (virtually the same as the MMC20EN) on my Beogram 1602 and am delighted with its performance.

 

Keep us posted on your Beogram 4002’s progress. (I know you will.)

 

Jeff

Location: Victoria, British Columbia

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